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02-25-2001, 04:48 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/eek.gif animal

Take a look at these threads which have some great tips:



Adding a guestbook to your site is easy. You just find a guestbook provider to sign up with, create the guestbook following their instructions and then make a link to the guestbook from your website. I have a guestbook on my site - if you take a look at it you will see a button that says something like 'get this gear'. That will take you to information about getting a similar guestbook.

Roan's tip about looking at what other people have on their web pages is excellent.

If you get stuck, email me - I'll be happy to help you.

good luck http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif


02-25-2001, 10:04 PM
Why not set your site up hear at ArtistNation? The have templates that will get you started, and you need not use all the features to begin. It's pretty easy, and if you're not selling, then just don't set up your Art-Agent feature, until you're ready.


02-25-2001, 10:15 PM
Here is a link to the start of my website, there is nothing much on it yet but, could you tell me what you think? I just started this and have not written anything so there is just a couple things.

Thanks Animal

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02-26-2001, 12:02 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/eek.gif I want to start a website for my art and am going to start one at http://www.homestead.com, I will not be selling stuff on it yet,just showing my works, and was wondering how to go about it with guestbooks, a title for the website and stuff that should be on it? Thanks Animal, http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/confused.gif

02-26-2001, 12:21 AM

Best thing to do is research. Go through all the people here and look at their web sites. Find commonalities -- things they all have, such as a gallery, biography, etc.,. Plan yours accordingly. As you look at sites you'll get some ideas on what you want to create for your site. I suggest developing your overall plan and creating the initial few pages first, before you try to delve into guestbooks.

When I was a professional webmaster I always presented my clients with a flow chart of the pages, as well as my proposal and projected costs. The flow chart showed what each page would contain, where it linked, etc.,. I still do it, even for my own site. The flowchart can even double as a site map when you are done, and it can also show future plans for your site development.

Hope this helps!

Oh, you may want to wade through the older messages in this forum and Art Business, there's lots on web site development.

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02-26-2001, 11:03 AM
Hey, you've got a good start there, animal.
Web Sites will keep you busy and are sometimes a lot of trouble, but their lots of fun!

Lots of Web site software are based on flow charts just as computers are. It's a simple way of basicly being organized and helps you get down what you want and how you want it on your site and makes navigation for others easier.

In this forum are lots are great ideas from other threads that talk about building good web sites.

Have fun!

Don't worry, its gonna be all right....
Tammy's Home for Artists (http://tammy.artistnation.com)

02-27-2001, 09:09 PM
http://www.homestead.com/artbyanimal/AnimalsArtGallery.html Here is the link to my website it has been updated but there is no text yet only some drawings on the drawing page

03-05-2001, 04:42 PM

Congratulations on your new website. It's great. Be sure to share your updates.


03-05-2001, 08:01 PM
Thanks Berrell for your comments. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

03-07-2001, 09:11 AM
Hi Animal,

Took a look at your site - looks to be coming on nicely. Well done. If your curiosity takes you further you might want to look at HTML programming and how websites/the internet work - good stuff and possibly a useful skill to have.


03-09-2001, 09:29 PM
Thanks BritishBrian for your comments. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

03-10-2001, 12:55 AM
Hand coding HTML can be a real pain and time consuming, but is very useful to know even if you use a WYSIWYG program that does it for you.
I still remember the very first time the I put words in Notepad and opened it up in a browser and saw text and color and pictures out of mere words. It was pretty neat for a newbie at the time.

Don't worry, its gonna be all right....
Tammy's Home for Artists (http://tammy.artistnation.com)

03-28-2001, 05:17 PM
Hi Animal,
I started a site on Homestead, and while I like some of the stuff they give you, I have to say that it doesn't help the users to get a good overall 'look & feel'.

Let me explain what I mean, when you create a page with Homestead it is 'stand-alone' ie. not automatically linked to your other pages, no standard colours fonts alignments etc etc.
All these things are hugely important to the image a site gives out. I gave up with Homestead and now use a package called NetObjects Fusion(which came free with a packet of Kelloggs).

The downside with using an editor tool is that you have to upload and manage you site yourself, but it gets easier with time.

For reference, I found a great book on making the site look professional. It's called "The non-designers Web book" by Robin Williams and John Tollett (ISBN 0-201-68859-X) $29.95 in the US, from Peachpit press www.peachpit.com. (http://www.peachpit.com.)

By the way, I think you have some rogue elements left on your page that you might want to get rid of (text instructions from Homestead). Just highlight and delete or reword them.

Good luck, it's fun (if time consuming). Drop me an Email if you need more detailed info.

Steve Howe
www.howe-bzar.co.uk (http://www.howe-bzar.co.uk)

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03-30-2001, 05:06 PM
Another helpful hint, if you find somebody else's web page that you like, ask their permission, of course, but you can right mouse click (with IE) and click 'view source' to see how their html is laid out. Especially good if you see something neat and can't figure out how to do it. My page is very simple, but I wished I would have known how to view other people's html when I was building mine. It's also a good way to figure out the best meta tags to use so that you get good search engine results. Have fun.

Juanice Art! (http://www.artistnation.com/members/lofts/juanice)

04-03-2001, 09:39 AM
Thanks everybody for your comments. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

04-03-2001, 02:50 PM
hey animal, im using the same host as you are ( homestead.com) they have plenty of guest books and templates that you can you or can even get your own for where ever.. i think they are reasonal .. here is one of my sites at homestead http://KIMSARTWORLD.homestead.com/ i have one with all of my work on it .. but im updating it now .. here is the link to that one anyway http://SPUNKYART.homestead.com/
As for having a site here.. i tried to that but was having HTML nightmares. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/eek.gif
bt will be working on that son .. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Art is life.

05-22-2001, 02:31 PM
Something that hasn't been brought up but needs to be considered for some is that many internet provider services block free web pages. Those most likely to have this impact their decision on who to go with would be artists who depend heavily on families as a client base, such as a portrait artist specializing in children's portraiture. Many of these families with children have opted for the filtering services to protect their children from 'surprises' while surfing. Obviously, if a significant portion of your client base cannot see your page it doesn't help you that it is free. If your curious about the specifics involved in these filtering services (what they filter) you can check out ifriendly.com. You can easily access their policy. I have already encountered this many times as I use ifriendly and MANY sites of artists are unavailable to me. But with four homeschooled, heavy web using children, it's not worth it to me change to a non-filtering service. For a few artists I have gone to the library to take a peek - but the library's waiting list and 30 minute time limit is a hassle. Even if you have a paid web page provider, remember that nudes will also get your sites blocked as well. No problem if you won't miss the family audience. It just depends on your market. I hate that I can't pull up Steve Hanks work. He is one of my favorites - but alas, ifriendly is worth it to me while my children are still young.

05-26-2001, 01:31 PM
One thing you may want to consider is purchasing a domain name. I recomment godaddy.com, they have really great prices, I got AngelaFehr.com registered for only $16.95 US for 2 years. The only drawback of this is that they don't include the email (i.e. art@angelafehr.com) that is additional. But AngelaFehr.com sounds a lot more professional than angelafehr.virtualave.net which is where my website is located. AngelaFehr.com is set up so that it goes straight to angelafehr.virtualave.net, so either address works.
If you are setting up a domain name, use something easy to remember, and avoid using dashes in your domain name, and get a dot com (.com) name if possible. Make it easy to remember: YourName.com is easier than Your-Name.com or yourname.net

Web site creation is fun and can be done really inexpensively (and yet can still look professional). And the best part is, we're all artists, so we should be able to design some awesome looking sites!

www.AngelaFehr.com (http://www.AngelaFehr.com)

05-26-2001, 01:36 PM
Another thing, as a Canadian artist, when you submit your site to search engines, use the Canadian branch of those engines that have one. Like Yahoo Canada. It's easier to get in than the main Yahoo, and your site will be included with all Yahoos.

Another Canadian site I love, and you can get listed in for free is artincanada.com (http://artincanada.com) I appreciated the personal response of the webmaster.

www.AngelaFehr.com (http://www.AngelaFehr.com)

05-26-2001, 02:05 PM
Thanks for the information Angelfehr. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/eek.gif

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05-28-2001, 01:41 PM
I do some web design, too...I had a few articles about learning HTML on a site call themestream.com that recently closed...I'm adding more "stuff" to my site, and want to add these articles for people to read...I hope to have them on there is a week or two, if you're interested...my site is
www.SpacePoet.com (http://www.SpacePoet.com)

And, viewing other designers source code is a great way to learn!

Arts to the Universe!

06-13-2001, 05:48 PM
I`ve had to delete my website as they are going to start charging people to pay to make websites with them. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/crying.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/frown.gif

06-13-2001, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by animal:
I`ve had to delete my website as they are going to start charging people to pay to make websites with them. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/crying.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/frown.gif

Don't cry Animal. There are a lot of places which will host it for free, and some will even host a domain name for free also. Freeservers is one. Trouble is, they're having problems with their webmail, so I wasn't able to have a nice sounding email.

I'm moving to another host shortly.

Do a search for web hosting and you'll come up with all sorts of possibilities.


06-13-2001, 11:37 PM
I haven't been there in awhile, but this site used to list free hosts... http:www.freewebspace.net (http://http:www.freewebspace.net)

Still don't understand why you aren't using artistnation though.


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06-14-2001, 11:33 AM
The reason I'm not using artistnation is because I have a dot com. I was connecting the artwork to art-agent, which I'll continue to do, once I get it back up and running.

I thought about redirection. I don't know how much it costs, or very much about it.

06-14-2001, 08:33 PM
Animal, you should really just use your free webpage space on http://www.artistnation.com . All these other freebie sites are going to make you display ads at the tops of your pages, and such. It's just not worth it.

I mean, why search around for new hosting when Scott has a great, ad-free, FREE hosting service right here? http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif Custom tailored for artists?

-=- Jen "Ah well" de la Cruz

06-26-2001, 10:41 AM
Hi Pixel, I'm starting my web site on Artist's Nation as you recommended, many thanks. I wanted to let you know that when I typed "jen de la cruz" in the block that asked for 'how I found out about them'...it returned a 'could'nt find member' answer...and so I left it blank...you might want to find out how to make a search for your name more 'robust'.