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Cuddles!
05-28-2001, 08:37 PM
I want the insect's body to have that chitinous glisteny surface.

Do you want to see the legs?

Am I done with this yet?

Cuddles!
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Ron.

<FONT COLOR="Maroon">I'm going to work on reproducing this at < 100k !</FONT c>

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karensart
05-29-2001, 05:30 PM
Hi Cuddles!

My impression of this work is that it's quite shocking. Probably, that's what you want it to be (?) What I miss (but that is personally) is a "context", or a "message" or "story" that the picture tells.

I've made a picture to show how I would make the insect's body glistening.

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I'm Dutch and use the Dutch version of Photoshop - so it's hard for me to tell in English which tools I used. Does this look like what you wanted it to be??

Best,
Karen

Cuddles!
05-29-2001, 07:09 PM
Photoshop is too editorial for me, using Painter, I feel like an artist. Using Photoshop, I feel like a technician.

I would like tips on how to produce this effect using mostly the painterly effects in Painter. As someone pointed out elsewhere, Painter's tools are so versatile it allows a truer representation of <my> skills without being limited too much by the look of the program's output.

Besides, your fix looks like mountains. I need a painterly technique to imitate that sheen you see on every close up shot of an insect in National Geographic. This is not as easy as it sounds.

As to the context... you're correct. I'm an illustrator in search of a message. And I'm still playing with Painter.

Speaking of context, do you know the program used to create the illustration accompanying this story?

Thank you very much for your input.

<FONT COLOR="Teal"> http://www.geocities.com/rosewort/pupa.html </FONT c>

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"work is what you do for others, liebschen; art is what you do for yourself."
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digistyle
05-30-2001, 09:47 PM
If I had to guess, I'd say the person was created in Curious Lab's Poser (http://www.curiouslabs.com/) software. The bugs in the mouth and the lighting would probably be Photoshop or Painter 4 and above.

digistyle

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Cuddles!
06-01-2001, 06:34 PM
Thank you. The face intrigued me. It's a great illustration for the story. You read the story, right?

By the way, do you have a foolproof way to make sure my tiny-head submission stays within the file size limitations?

Ron.


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"work is what you do for others, liebschen; art is what you do for yourself."
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mark42
06-02-2001, 06:25 PM
I noticed that you wanted to get a "liquid" feel to your bug. I tried my hand at adding some touches using Painter 6. I'm not sure if this is the kind of result you're looking for but it was fun trying none the less.

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What I did (although it could probably have been done more directly) was this:

- I added a layer above the canvas that contained a simple stripe of white and black down the center of the bug's back

- I then added a dynamic layer (liquid lens) and started to push the image around (it works like smudge but has a different feel to the result).

- I also played with the opacity so it would look like a reflective texture on top of the original image.

Mark

Gerald [Grady] Goodwin
06-03-2001, 06:50 PM
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Hey Cuddles,
This probably isn't what you're looking for, but nevertheless I think it makes for a powerful image.
Open your original image in Photoshop and make a duplicate layer. Invert the new layer (image>adjust>invert). Then change the layers compositing mode to "difference" in the layers palette pull down menu.
Inverting images and using difference compositing is an easy way to achieve weird luminous effects. Of course, it's hit or miss, just like using filters. The only sure way I know to create shiny, liquid-like surfaces is to find a shiny, liquid-like surface and make studies of it. A wealth of knowledge can be found from such things as a drop of water in a white plastic spoon.
When it comes to file size for uploads, you can increase the jpeg compression of a COPY of the image to bring the file size down. BUT heavy jpeg compression will kill an image, especially over time. So be sure you don't use jpeg compression on your original files. Generally, the more colors and details an image has, the larger the file size, and the more jpeg compression it will take to bring a COPY of the image into the 100K range.

Grady

Cuddles!
06-03-2001, 09:29 PM
That is bee-you-tiffle. I love the detail to the poury stuff the treatment gives on the torso. Quite effective.

But I worry about crossing over into producing images based on tricks.

I also don't have Photoshop.

I'm getting Painter 5 soon. Hopefully it will help me to make some kind of connections about the program, to make this better.

Thanks for taking the time to treat this picture and download it.

I guess I'll try turning the colorsin my tiny head down to greyscale and hope that'll do it.

Later,

Ron.


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"work is what you do for others, liebschen; art is what you do for yourself."
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digistyle
06-04-2001, 12:11 AM
My tiny head "formula" is to make sure that the chosen/created image is divisible by 60. The original for the image I used for my tiny head is 360 x 360. I changed either the height or the width to 60. Most graphics programs have a resizing option that keeps the image's perspective when changing the width or height, so the corresponding attribute is changed to 60 also. If the image you start with is not divisible by 60, crop it until it is. Hope this helps.

digistyle

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