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Dima
06-30-2003, 05:02 PM
Some more OP sketches on 24x32cm paper.

Done remembering a bleached out photograph I saw the day before:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Jun-2003/2034-Peelsloot.jpg

A fantasy landscape trying to get the sky right with a new 12 piece op box:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Jun-2003/2034-Lzn2.jpg

Done after a sketch I did a week before:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Jun-2003/2034-LZN3.jpg

Dick

jackiesimmonds
06-30-2003, 07:04 PM
Dick, looks like you are enjoying getting into your oil pastels!

Just one or two comments, hope you won't mind.

I am very aware of the marks, looks as tho you use the pastels in a very linear way. This is fine, just so long as you are aware that they can be used in a more painterly fashion, to create more solid areas of colour. For instance, to have the lines going so diagonally in the sky, as in your top pic, gives the impression of driving rain!
You have tried to tackle the sky differently in the other sketches, but I think you could do with some more light tones in the skies in these sketches. Having a rather dark-toned sky, sets the mood of the piece as being somewhat heavy. I wonder if this is what you wanted. In reality, skies tend to get lighter towards the horizon, if you look carefully. Blue skies are a purply blue above your head, and gradually become a paler greenyblue towards the horizon. At different times of day, this light at the horizon can be almost cream in tone. You might find that gradually adding some lighter tones as you move "down" towards the horizon will lift the atmosphere and illuminate the picture.

Jackie
www.jackiesimmonds.co.uk

JohnnyRed
06-30-2003, 07:29 PM
They all look very loose and impressionistic. The skies are a bit van Gough-ish in their vibrancy.

Unfortunately, the shadows in the first picture spoil it for me. They don't look right to me.

I think we must also remember, they ARE sketches and should be commented as such. Do you intend to make something of them?

Jackie was giving good advice on being painterly, that's good if that is what you want. To me, they are good as they are - nice and free.

Mo.
06-30-2003, 07:29 PM
Okay Dick... spill the beans what are the new op's you've bought?

Some lovely colours there.... do tell. :)

Chelle
06-30-2003, 07:44 PM
Nice sketches. I particularly like the middle one. It has a really nice "rural" feel to it for me.

Dyin
06-30-2003, 10:43 PM
Dima...I love the colors you use, they're exciting....I like the loose easy strokes...it's a totally different way than I use oil pastels and I really enjoy the differences...plus you sure get a lot more done in the same period of time!!! I like your sketches...keep them coming!:clap:

Mikki Petersen
07-01-2003, 01:39 AM
These are lovely. I won't nit-pick over technique because they each have such a nice feel. The colors are rich and alive and the scenes are quite pleasantly simple. I like the loose strokes that express an idea more than detail. Keep it up, these are great!

E-J
07-01-2003, 05:33 AM
Dick, I won't comment on technique since the loose feel is very much a trademark of many of your oil pastels and is your style. Jackie's point about adding some lighter sky tones seems a very valid one, though. I do love that first sketch!

magnuscanis
07-01-2003, 10:58 AM
I like all three of these pictures, Dick. I think the style you've used (which Jackie aptly described as a linear style) works very well.

Do you work directly on unprimed paper?

Dima
07-01-2003, 06:57 PM
Thanks for the comments, all ye.

Jackie, I am aware that these op's may be used in different ways.
And I was indeed struggling in these sketches to lighten up the skies.
The linear style (even more appearent in the digis than in the originals) I would say was the result of the harder op's used (vanGoghs and cray-pas) and the speed of working. Though it might also come natural to me and be part of my handwriting.

Johnny, they are sketches as you justly mentioned and I do not yet know if I'll use them for future pieces.

Mo, this 12 piece set mentioned was Cray-pas expressionist and nothing special. In the same shop however I also happened to find the 25 pcs set of Cray-pas specialist; something I had no longer expected in this country.
Furthermore two weeks ago my 96 neopastels and 48 Maimeris arrived so I added these
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Jul-2003/2034-06290002det.jpg
to my existing collection
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Jul-2003/2034-04240019det.jpg
So that should make enough sticks for a few more sketches and other works.

Dick

Dyin
07-01-2003, 08:14 PM
Furthermore two weeks ago my 96 neopastels and 48 Maimeris arrived so I added these


I never heard of Maimeris...are they artist grade??? I only have the Senneliers and Neopastels...which are they more similar to? Isn't it exciting to open up a brand new package and see all the pretty colors? You have a lovely collection going!

Dima
07-03-2003, 05:27 PM
Dyin, yes it is exciting to open up and a box of pastel colours is allways a beautiful sight to see and would almost tempt you not to touch them.
The Maimeris are artist grade, but much harder then I had expected. They compare in hardness/firmness to the Daler-Rowneys but do not have the waxiness of the latter.
I suspect they will prove to be most suited for first lines and laying in first colours, much like the rembrandts are often described as their workhorses by soft-pastelists.

Dick

Dyin
07-03-2003, 06:56 PM
Thanks...is that Senneliers I spy in the back of the second photo? I think they are super rich and their transparents seem to be true transparents unlike the Caran d'Ache neopastels that all seem to be opaque. I found a tiny dab of Sennelier can go a long way but I'm starting to get used to their properties for the type of work I'm doing...what's your favorite?

Dima
07-07-2003, 06:11 PM
Right Dyin those are Senneliers just like the square box in the first photo.
Most here on wc seem to prefer the neopastels but I agree with you that the Senneliers are the top and their colours are unrivalled.
They are however sometimes somewhat dificult to handle because of their softness.
I cannot say that a tiny dab can go a long way as I prefer a more rough or toothy surface that seem to eat these sticks.
Maybe we should start a thread:"What have you and how do you like those sticks?"

Dick

Dyin
07-07-2003, 06:57 PM
I'm finding I'm getting more used to them as I go, but see that a good swipe even on a not too toothed paper takes a lot away...but again...love the pigment saturation in them...I put a base of their flesh down before I start adding my color to it...for some reason, when I use the red toned a little pure red pigment will show up that didn't get blended when they made the pastel...don't know why it excites me when that happens..but it does! Would be a good thread really...although a lot has to do with the style people paint in...as you said.