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StarGate
11-27-2000, 02:31 PM
Hi Wet Canvas-ers I have created some images that are tests using ZBrush to create the effects of some common Fine Art Mediums -
now that I have done them I will give a link to them so you may have a look see - and post your comments about them if you like and questions if you like.

Oil-Acrylics
http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=13274&Start=1&Artist=StarGate&ByArtist=Yes

Colored Pencils
http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=13261&Start=1&Artist=StarGate&ByArtist=Yes

Pastels
http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=13462&Start=1&Artist=StarGate&ByArtist=Yes

Watercolors
http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=20598&Start=1&Artist=StarGate&ByArtist=Yes

Graphite Pencil
http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=25551&Start=1&Artist=StarGate&ByArtist=Yes

Have fun creating art :-)

[This message has been edited by StarGate (edited November 27, 2000).]

pixelscapes
12-04-2000, 10:15 AM
Hm! Wow!
I've never heard of this Zbrush program before. Looks really interesting. I'd say your tests are more or less a success. Except for the graphite one (which is a Double Wow), none of the mediums are 100% convincing. This is to be expected since there's more to the "look" of a medium than just the texture and color. It's something about the way people typically gesture as they work, and how they move through different areas. There's things that can be done with a mouse that wouldn't work with real paint. Something about the physical resistance, not sure...

Either way though, I could definitely see you using the techniques you've learned to make some non-tests. I guess my only piece of advice would be to focus on your composition and design rather than on the illusion of paint (or whatever). NOT that you're doing that (I know these are just tests!), but I've seen people get so caught up in the idea that they can use a filter or a specific digital program to make things look like paint, that they forget the original point of what they were doing. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif

Good luck with it, and keep us posted about your progress?

-=- Jen "Mmm, painty" de la Cruz
http://www.Pixelscapes.com and http://www.BewareOfArt.com

TeAnne
12-04-2000, 05:24 PM
I will be back later. I promise.

StarGate
12-07-2000, 12:59 AM
pixelscapes
Thank you for your comments.
I went to your web pages pixelscapes and I really like your art creations at
http://www.BewareOfArt.com
I am not a pro in digital graphics art - a beginner.
I think you are correct in your comments that composition and design are very important in a work of art. A few comments on my digital work- most of my tests are not in composition as I have been exploring the capabilities of digital art tools (software) so I have been concentrating on weather or not a program can produced an desired effect. And - how easy is the program to use - in that can I do this easier in the traditional medium or the digital tool. I am using the digital tools more of a sketch pad because I am new at using digital tools (software) - in a way I guess you can say I use them to storyboard a traditional medium (I think the Master Painters call this cartoons of the Master painting). Working on creating full compositions - LOL when I
fine the programs that I can use easily - for example the 3d program Strada3D
is now free and it is a fully functional 3d program - it's a little hard for me to use. I have been thinking about illustrating some of my poems with a digital art program -blending art nouveau style elements in composition to the text.

You say:
"There's things that can be done with a mouse that wouldn't work with real paint. Something about the physical resistance ..."
excellent comment and vise versa - in that their is a more tactile quality in creating art in rational mediums - tools, supports,
paints/pencils etc. imo
I have mentioned the program ZBrush (BTW you can get a free demo here
www.pixologic.com (http://www.pixologic.com)
I have PhotoBrush which has an emboss tool that is used like a paint tool - you can read more and link to demo at my web page here
http://www.geocities.com/futurevision_2000/PhotoBrush.html
Adobe PhotoShop is listed as a really good program and I do not have this program - I use JASC's Paint Shop Pro 6.02 (ver 7 is out)
Painter is rated as a really good program - I do not have this program- I did get MetaCreations Art Dabbler 2.1 it does not have all the Painter tools - I think it has the artist type brushes (haven't used it that much)I do like Art Dabbler's sketchbook (maybe it's called filp book)
BTW you can go to my home page here
http://www.geocities.com/futurevision_2000
and their is a link to the abcg FAQ which lists some freeware and commercial graphics programs.
If you have any programs you would to suggest freeware or commercial please do so. I am not sure about other members but I like to know about different kinds of graphics programs.


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[This message has been edited by StarGate (edited December 06, 2000).]

Impulse
01-09-2001, 11:22 PM
Hi, I tried the free demo of Zbrush. I found fantastic half intentioned half mistaken images that make great background for digital creations. However, I found it nearly impossible to control with any precisions. Enter there only if you like being surprised by the results and have a use for really neat 3D effects.

Nice Pieces though.

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Epicurea
01-25-2001, 04:15 AM
I also downloaded the free demo and gave it a try...great stuff, looks cool, lotsa fun. HOWEVER, I don't see the looks-like-other-mediums properties *anywhere* http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/frown.gif, and it won't let me save as or load any file type other than it's own...so I can't use the demo to add to or alter any of my existing work, and I can't save anything as jpg or gif, only .zbr (or something like that). http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/frown.gif I visited the customer service section of www.pixologic.com (http://www.pixologic.com) and filled out the question form a few days ago...no response as of yet. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/frown.gif

So...so far, it's a really really neat toy to play with, but that's all...I've created a few really cool images, but it doesn't really matter, cuz nothing reads that file type except ZBrush. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/tongue.gif

Cassandra

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pixelscapes
01-29-2001, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Epicurea:
I've created a few really cool images, but it doesn't really matter, cuz nothing reads that file type except ZBrush. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/tongue.gif

You could always do something like say... take a screenshot and then paste the screenshot into a different program, one that WILL save to .jpg and .gif...

But of course you'll be limited in terms of resolution, unless you crank up the image size within Zbrush and change your monitor display properties to get a bigger screencap.

-=- Jen "Is this cheating?" de la Cruz
http://www.Pixelscapes.com and http://www.BewareOfArt.com

TeAnne
01-29-2001, 05:42 PM
I finally got a chance to have a look around. Very impressive. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

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