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digistyle
12-09-2000, 04:59 PM
This piece was done completely in Painter Classic. It was my first “serious” attempt at painting a portrait. Not having done much painting (real world or digital), I used a reference book to guide me through the process. The book is called “How to Paint Like the Old Masters” by Joseph Sheppard. I chose to follow the techniques of Titian. I had to adapt some of the book’s instructions, which were for creating oil paintings, to fit the tools I used in Painter.

I used an old portrait sketch that I had done much earlier in Fractal Designs Dabbler. I opened it in Painter Classic and cloned it . I selected and cleared the cloned image and turned tracing paper on. Following the book’s instructions, using the sable brush tool, I roughed in the outline of the portrait using burnt umber. I then painted the flesh tones with gray, the light areas with white and the dark areas with a darker gray.

I redefined the features, painted in the hair mass, and added accents to the shadows. I added additional white to the highlighted areas and blended them with the dry brush tool. I added color to the skin, blending with the “just add water” and the dry brush tools.

I used the fine brush tool to build and shape the hair mass. Varying the size of the fine brush tool, I added highlights and shadows to the hair.

For the eyes, I turned to a tutorial I found online called “Fine Art With Painter: Digital
Drawing And Painting”, by Jane Rock Kennedy. It is a tutorial on using Painter’s
watercolor tools to create realistic eyes.

Finally, the sweater was created using various brush tools on textured paper and the
background was made using the ultra fine wash brush.

I was very pleased with the way this painting turned out, even though I noticed some mistakes. I decided to leave them in so that I could use them as a learning reference for future work.

Critiques and suggestions welcomed.

Lorenzo

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TeAnne
12-10-2000, 06:56 PM
Very very nice http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif Here is a place that is relly into digital art. Digital Art (http://www.sijun.com/cgi-bin/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Digital+Art+Forum&number=2&DaysPrune=30&LastLogin=)

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digistyle
12-22-2000, 10:41 PM
Thanks for the suggestion. I had visited the site before and picked up some good digital art tutorial links. Now if I can just find the time to start applying some of the new techniques!

Digistyle

Shriner
12-24-2000, 12:39 AM
cool - I like the idea of painting on the computer. I'd be happy to give a crit, but it is hard to give crits when you don't know the artist or the artist's goals... what are you interested in achieving or what do you hope to gain in a crit? let me know and I will try to help.

I don't visit the crit forum because it is mostly just people saying "nice job" (like I am here - ha) and no one really knows who they are dealing with (like I said, I need to know the artist and his/her goals to be able to help him/her to move in the direction the is helpful to him/her)

keep posting!

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digistyle
12-29-2000, 12:19 AM
Shriner,

My goal for this piece was basically to try to create a realistic looking painting using digital tools. I was wondering if anyone noticed any glaring (or subtle) painting mistakes in the portrait. For instance, I liked the way the skin tones and shadows came out, but was there something more I could have (or should have)done with them?

Well, thanks for looking!

Digistyle

Shriner
12-29-2000, 03:55 PM
ok - sure. I will download you image and fix a couple of things and explain why I did them the way I did. It should take but a couple of minutes. I will post it later

hope it helps!


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Shriner
12-29-2000, 04:55 PM
Digistyle!!!

Our server is down. I can't FTP anything until at least Monday, and probably not until Tuesday... If I send you the image I just worked on, can you post it for me, and then I will post an explanation of what I did?

Thanks

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digistyle
12-29-2000, 06:00 PM
Shriner,

You can send the image to me at [email protected] No problem it posting for you. TIA for the help.

Digistyle

digistyle
12-30-2000, 11:27 AM
Shriner,

Here is the image you sent me. I like the depth you gave to the image. I look forward to the how's and why's.

Digistyle

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Shriner
12-30-2000, 05:59 PM
Hey, Digistyle - thanks for posting it for me. I hope I can FTP again by mid-week....

First, realize I did all of these corrections in Photoshop, since I don't have the program you are using...

I put the yellow arrows to indicate what appeared to me to be the direction you wanted the light source to come from (I based this on how you handled the eyes). The black arrows show where I thought the shadows could be darker to increase the contrast. The red lines are there to illustrate what I thought might be misaligned elements (granted, I don't know the model, so I can only guess what she might look like).

First, since I wanted to correct this image in only a few minutes (it took about 5 minutes, I think), and because I wanted to rely on what you had done rather then redo anything, the most important tool for these correction was the "burn/dodge" tool (the one that also has the sponge). Generally, I set the dodge tool to "highlights" and the burn tool to "shadows" although I also used both in the "midtones" (double click the tool in the tool bar to bring up the settings). I first darkened the shadows (my tool was set to - go to File>Preferences>Display and Cursors> and set the tool to Brush Size – NEVER set it as Precise - you can just hit the Caps Lock key to temporarily set it to precise as needed).

Second, after darkening the shadows, I used the dodge tool to highlight on the right side of her face and blouse. I went back and forth between dodging and burning as you can see by looking closely.

Lastly, since HER left eye (the one on the right ;-) ) seemed high, so I drew a selection around that eye with the lasso tool (feathered at 2 pixels) and then chose Layer>New>via Copy. I took the eye that was then on a new separate layer, rotated it and shrunk it down until it lined up with the other eye (use Image>Free Transform). I did the same with the mouth, since it seemed a tad large.

Only 5 minutes of work and it makes a big difference. I hope this helps! I skimmed over this quickly, so I may not have explained it very fully... Let me know if you have more questions

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digistyle
01-02-2001, 04:42 PM
Shriner,
Thanks for the walk-thru. As I mentioned before, the shadows and contrasts made a HUGE difference in realism of the portrait That and un-Picasso-ing her eyes http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif). In hindsight, I think I approached this painting too timidly, concentrating mostly on not screwing it up. As for the model, she is an amalgam of photos of three different women who happened to be in almost the same pose.
I have another portrait painting in the early planning stages. I'll keep your notes handy when I start it!

Regards,
Digistyle

Grace
01-02-2001, 09:34 PM
Too Cool Digistyle! I like what you did! And Shriners quick lesson on how to improve it! Have you used Painter Classic much Digistyle? I have that program too, but have only done one "painting" with it, plus some "pencil" sketches I posted in the Compostion forum.

Grace

digistyle
01-03-2001, 12:00 AM
Grace,

I used Painter Classic for about a year, before that I used Dabbler. A couple of months ago I got the full version of Painter. Most of the work on my website was done in Painter Classic, Photoshop or a combination of the two.

If you're interested in getting the full version of Painter, check out www.pcformat.com. (http://www.pcformat.com.) They included Painter 5.5 on the disk of the month for the September 2000 issue. They may still have back issues available. I think the cost was less than $30 total.

Please post your painting. I enjoy seeing how other artists use the program.

Regards,
Digistyle
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Went to Composition to see your work. It's very good. Now I definetly would like to see the painting http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

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TeAnne
01-04-2001, 07:50 AM
Wow yes, what a difference. Nice job http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif
I am just too lazy to read my tutorials in CoralDraw. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/frown.gif
More art please you guys, it's great to see what these programs can do.

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Grace
01-04-2001, 09:46 PM
Digistyle,

I went to that website, but couldn't find how to get a back issue. That would be a really good buy..last I checked the full version of Painter was like $400.

When I find that digital painting on my hard drive I will post it! I was pleased with it at first, but then realized later on that it needs a lot more contrast. It's all pretty much the same tone. I was doing the "pencil" drawings as a preliminary to doing a watercolor,(which I'm trying to learn). But after seeing your digital painting, I am inspired to work with Painter some more too! I just started painting a couple of months and have been spending a lot of time looking at tutorials and lessons. It is amazing how much there is here on Wet Canvas. I am really getting a lot from it and can already see improvement. I would probably see more if I spent more time doing - rather than reading about it! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/redface.gif

Maybe you have seen this website-
http://www.portrayals.com/gallery.html

I love the Portraits on this site, all done in Painter! Really great work and there are some top notch tutorials too! Check it out!

Grace http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

digistyle
01-05-2001, 10:59 PM
Grace,

Send an email to the address on the site. They should contact you with the purchasing information.

I visited the portrayals.com. You're right, there is some good stuff there.

By the way, I start a watercolor class in about two weeks. The local community center offered the course and I signed right up. Hope we can swap some watercolor tips http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Digistyle

Grace
01-11-2001, 04:50 PM
Digistyle! I am so jealous! I want to take a watercolor class. I signed up for one last session but it was canceled for lack of participation. I showed up again this session with brushes in hand and friends in tow (maybe we will have enough this time!)but still not enough for a class. I live in an area with a large retirement population. Lots of classes offered during the day. Virtually none at night. I have been relying on the Lessons here at Wet Canvas. Carol (OLECC) has a new one! Looking forward to swapping watercolor tips and tricks with you!

Still haven't been back to that website to see if I can snag the issue with Painter 5.5 in it. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/redface.gif

Dudi
01-23-2001, 11:08 PM
Nice work Digistyle! Thanx for sharing your techniques.

Shehaub
01-24-2001, 11:09 AM
I enjoy the learning process. Thank you Digistyle and Shriner for sharing this lesson. Now I am going to go check out those tutorials!

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digistyle
01-24-2001, 05:08 PM
You're welcome, all. I'm sure I'll be posting more mistakes... uh..I mean, artwork. We'll keep Shriner busy for a long time to come. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif

BTW, Grace,
I had my first watercolor class last night. Looks like its gonna be fun! I'll be heading out to the art supply store later to fill my require materials list! Pity my first subjects!!!

( ...and the crowd goes wild http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif )
Digistyle