View Full Version : need help regarding a good paper

12-21-2000, 08:35 PM
Ouch! that is expensive. Please share your discoveries with us! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

For people that aren't looking for the premium stuff you are looking for, I always say buy the same brand paper as the printer you are running it through (Epson 900 printer, maybe try the heavy weight Epson photo papers... etc).

For the high end stuff, I can't help. I don't have deep pockets, so I haven't tried that kind of stuff. I would LOVE to hear what you discover, however. Have you been trying the archival inks? What is your opinion on those? your printer is a 6 color, right?

Sorry I can't help! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/frown.gif


12-22-2000, 12:30 AM
I have an Epson 3000 printer and am looking for a good paper, acid free and archival that will produce a photo realistic image. I've tried Somerset Velvet, and the color is good, but the image has fuzzy edges, since it's a watercolor paper. Somerset has a new paper that is like the Velvet but is coated and gets terrific sharpness, but costs $175 for 25 sheets (17x22). Anyone out there have a secret they would like to share? What are you using? Any help will be appreciated.

12-22-2000, 02:07 AM
In reply to the question of what I've discovered: Until the last few months, most Epson papers and inks have not been condusive to long life. The color and definition are unsurpassed for the most part, but they haven't lasted, especially the glossy paper. They have new inks and papers on the market now that the jury is still out on. With one of their new printers they claim 200 years of longevity, but those inks and papers aren't for my 3000, which by the way uses 4 ink carts. MIS has inks that are supposed to outlast Epson inks by a long, long way. (the old Epson inks, that is.)

The Somerset Velvet paper I've been testing takes some tweeking of my color controls to get accurate color on the Somerset Velvet. The resolution in the scan seems to affect it quite a lot. So far my best results have been at a scan of 450 dpi, then printing at 720 dpi with my printer set for plain paper. Now that is with the Somerset Velvet, which is a watercolor paper. As yet the images aren't as sharp as I would like them. I'm still experimenting in that area. I seem to be able to get better images by using filters in my photoshop program. On some images the Gausian Blur helps, and Sharpening the edges gives better definition.

I'm scanning photos of my paintings which I enlarged to 8x10. I used 400 film on some of them which may be the problem. On the next ones I shoot, I'll go down to 100 or maybe 60. As I look at some of the photo enlargements I can see the grainyness in them. That may be the biggest part of my problem. However, I've gotten some pretty good prints from the printer with the glossy paper. So many variables.

I've noticed that a lot of the high definition papers are coated with gelatin. I plan to experiment with that. In applying gold leaf to glass, one dissolves gelatin caps into distilled water to stick the gold to the glass. I'm going to experiment with the idea of making a wash with water and gel caps and laying it on the paper. It may not work, but if it does I could save about $125 per 25 sheets of paper.

One more thing. There are sprays available which increase resistance to UV light, the element that makes the inks fade, combined with acid in the paper. Krylon makes one, which I'm trying. Lyson also makes one, which sells for about $18 per can. The Krylon is a lot cheaper.

That's it, my brain is empty.

I would appreciate any ideas or information.


12-28-2000, 08:40 PM
I only have a second to respond, so I apologize if this seems terse! I have used the UV sprays and found out they don't really help (almost not at all! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/frown.gif ...). Yes, in regards to photos, using 64 ASA film will help a LOT (400 is very grainy - even 200 is bad). If you have access to a GOOD digital camera, that helps even more. I photographed most of the work on my interactive CD-ROM with a digital camera because scanning images never looked as good, whether from slides or prints. The best film I have used is 25 ASA, but the lowest I can go with Tungsten film (I shoot all my stuff with professional lights) is 64 ASA.

Don't know if that helps you! take care


01-05-2001, 01:53 PM
Here's some printing tips I often refer to when printing on watercolor paper: http://www.tssphoto.com/sp/dg/watercolor_printing.html

They're actually customized for Somerset Velvet (how conveeenient!)

The advanced settings are even better: http://www.tssphoto.com/sp/dg/tips/somerset_instructions.html

If you were really desperate you could buy and download an ICC profile for the Epson that was specifically balanced for your paper and ink, at: http://www.inkjetmall.com/

I bought one of these profiles... but to be honest, I haven't seen any real difference using it. I suppose that if I weren't already following those "advanced settings" directions above, the ICC profile might be much more useful.

Hope this helps!

-=- Jen "ICC-k-e-y... m-o-u-s-e" de la Cruz