OK.. a good problem, I'm selling...point me to good discount frames?

[LarrySeiler]

Just got a call from the gallery I got in this past month, they sold my fifth plein air, are quite excited and want a bunch more. She says, "we're down to only three!"

That's funny, because initially that is what they were going to limit themselves to. So, I'm happy my landscapes are moving and in of all places, the land of football and beer! Wow....who'd have guessed it?

Now...living in this remote national forest that I do, I'm not near my former reliable framer. I'm hoping to find some good, decent premade or made to order discount frames. Have some online sites for me to check out, or places to order catalogs from?

I have plenty of paintings to frame up, but will have to crank out some barn wood frames of my own next week to comply. Thanks in advance....

Larry

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Larry Seiler <b>NAPPAP</b>
The "Artsmentor"
http://www.artsmentor.org

"Painting is easy when you don't know how, but very difficult when you do!" Edgar Degas

[arlene]

Colorado Frame Co.
800-762-3342 www.coloradoframe.com (http://www.coloradoframe.com)

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http://arlene.artistnation.com

[LarrySeiler]

thanks Arlene, will check it out....open to others too folks!

Going there right now!

Larry

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Larry Seiler <b>NAPPAP</b>
The "Artsmentor"
http://www.artsmentor.org

"Painting is easy when you don't know how, but very difficult when you do!" Edgar Degas

[Mich451]

Larry...

I also use http://www.pictureframes.com/

[hairballsdotcom]

I'm getting ready to place an order here. http://www.frameusa.com/
Prices are seem truly wholesale.

I have not yet seen their frames. My sister is also an artist and she uses the ARCHITECT Series wood frames from this company and loves them.


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Lori Lee
Hairballs.com (http://hairballs.com/art) Cat Art & Collectibles

[pixelscapes]

Colorado Frame's website is horrible, but their catalog is great. They also have excellent customer service... so... don't judge them by their site. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

-=- Jen "I like them." de la Cruz

[arlene]

Susan, who runs customer service at colorado frame is the best...tell her I sent you...h and they only do wholesale and the quality is great!

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http://arlene.artistnation.com

[LarrySeiler]

Thanks everyone. I never thought this would one day even be an issue. I had a great, perhaps one of the best framers I had known where I last lived, whom gave me 50% off his prices. Now..living in a national forest, and facing the prospects of new markets I'm like..."huh?...www-what?"

I'm bookmarking....and, will call Colorado Arlene...! They really need to do something about their site if they want serious sales online. It is bad!

Larry

Larry

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Larry Seiler <b>NAPPAP</b>
The "Artsmentor"
http://www.artsmentor.org

"Painting is easy when you don't know how, but very difficult when you do!" Edgar Degas

[cliffwilson]

I just ordered a couple of frames from http://www.americanframe.com/ and everything went well and I was very pleased with the product.

I was shopping for a particular style and a deep rabbet and they were the only ones that had what I was looking for. Prices seem on par with the other sites I looked at.

Good luck.
Cliff

[LarrySeiler]

thanks Cliff...will check that one out too!


Delivered more work to the gallery yesterday, and the sales clerk made the comment about the unique frames that so well complimented my works. "Ugh!!" was more or less my response, because as I told her... the fine lady that did those for me went thru a nastry divorce and opted to shut her gallery down and leave the area rather than be near her ex! So....the pressure is on!
-Larry

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Larry Seiler NAPPAP
The "Artsmentor"
http://www.artsmentor.org

"Painting is easy when you don't know how, but very difficult when you do!" Edgar Degas

[Sonia7373]

Hi Larry, sorry I didn't see this thread earlier. Just wanted to second the motion for pictureframes.com. They are about 15 minutes away from my front door and have everything in stock and it always ships the same day. Wonderful catalog and a frame to fit any style of painting. They are really willing to work with you. Reasonably priced IMHO.
Sonia

[mame]

Larry - is your work selling "off the wall" (exhibited) or from the gallery's inventory?

My gallery has an in-house framer (I can use or not and elect to use his services because he is an artist in his own right) and I frame only for exhibiting. My experience is that buyers prefer to select their own framing. I just take extra care to "finish" unframed works as aesthetically pleasing as I can.

Price of unframed works also is a little less daunting for the new or budget conscious collector. My framing can add upwards of $300 to the bottom line.

[pixelscapes]

Originally posted by lseiler
They really need to do something about their site if they want serious sales online. It is bad!

Yeah, last time I talked to them on the phone they said they were going to redo their site. :D Anyway, hope you find what you're looking for from one of these places.

And, good point, Mame. I only frame my stuff because I /have/ to (otherwise my collectors and/or the people they ask to frame my sculpture could accidentally injure themselves).

-=- Jen "I have a new scar on my arm right now... my coworkers are teasing me and saying I must be suicidal... waaah!" de la Cruz

[fink]

The company that I like is www.framesbymail.com out of St. Louis.They seem to have great service. The wooden frames come assembled and ready for glass and paintings. It is the only place that I order from anymore and they seem to know my voice when I call with questions and orders. 800 332 2467.

:)

[LarrySeiler]

<b>Larry - is your work selling "off the wall" (exhibited) or from the gallery's inventory? </b>

I'm selling works displayed in the gallery mostly, but also by using any number of online venues I have to follow-up.

<b>My gallery has an in-house framer (I can use or not and elect to use his services because he is an artist in his own right) and I frame only for exhibiting. My experience is that buyers prefer to select their own framing. I just take extra care to "finish" unframed works as aesthetically pleasing as I can. </b>

I think it depends much on where people are viewing the works. I did just get into one other gallery in the same area (by agreement with the two galleries to avoid conflict) that will be displaying and selling my wildlife art works only. This gallery is run by the artist there, whom also frames, so I'm sure that will be an option in the future. My experience is that many framers put about a 300% mark up on framing.

In Wisconsin, in general...expensively framed works do not sell <i>unless</i> an out of state buyer takes it. So, "ready mades" can present a decent display without too much out of the pocket expenses making its replacement for more discerning tastes less an issue. I have left it with the gallery to present framing to suit the buyer as an option.

<b>Price of unframed works also is a little less daunting for the new or budget conscious collector. My framing can add upwards of $300 to the bottom line.</b>

In the galleries I'm in presently, works would not be considered unframed as suitable. I'm wanting to get into one or two more high end good galleries, and will be spending some time in perhaps our more lucrative aesthetic area of the state here yet this summer painting, and making contacts. My hope is to encourage galleries to get online if they are not, or use my site to promote the possible sales of art that are not in their gallery but perhaps the patron/buyer would be interested in. In that sense, sales could be projected by "inventory"......

Such a thing, I would hope...would extend Art-Agent's potential to make some money off my work as well, sharing commissions with the gallery. I think having works on hand at the gallery for the viewer to inspect makes a partnership with other works viewable online to see more likely, as confidence in the artist's abilities grows.

The most expensive frame I've put on a piece was thru a framer whom gave me about a 50% discount do to volume I had done thru his gallery. It was $600, about a 6" wide frame, with much gilding...so, I am grateful I only had to pay half on that one! Don't do that everyday, let me tell ya!

Larry

[LarrySeiler]

<b>Larry - is your work selling "off the wall" (exhibited) or from the gallery's inventory? </b>

I'm selling works displayed in the gallery mostly, but also by using any number of online venues I have to follow-up.

<b>My gallery has an in-house framer (I can use or not and elect to use his services because he is an artist in his own right) and I frame only for exhibiting. My experience is that buyers prefer to select their own framing. I just take extra care to "finish" unframed works as aesthetically pleasing as I can. </b>

I think it depends much on where people are viewing the works. I did just get into one other gallery in the same area (by agreement with the two galleries to avoid conflict) that will be displaying and selling my wildlife art works only. This gallery is run by the artist there, whom also frames, so I'm sure that will be an option in the future. My experience is that many framers put about a 300% mark up on framing.

In Wisconsin, in general...expensively framed works do not sell <i>unless</i> an out of state buyer takes it. So, "ready mades" can present a decent display without too much out of the pocket expenses making its replacement for more discerning tastes less an issue. I have left it with the gallery to present framing to suit the buyer as an option.

<b>Price of unframed works also is a little less daunting for the new or budget conscious collector. My framing can add upwards of $300 to the bottom line.</b>

In the galleries I'm in presently, works would not be considered unframed as suitable. I'm wanting to get into one or two more high end good galleries, and will be spending some time in perhaps our more lucrative aesthetic area of the state here yet this summer painting, and making contacts. My hope is to encourage galleries to get online if they are not, or use my site to promote the possible sales of art that are not in their gallery but perhaps the patron/buyer would be interested in. In that sense, sales could be projected by "inventory"......

Such a thing, I would hope...would extend Art-Agent's potential to make some money off my work as well, sharing commissions with the gallery. I think having works on hand at the gallery for the viewer to inspect makes a partnership with other works viewable online to see more likely, as confidence in the artist's abilities grows.

The most expensive frame I've put on a piece was thru a framer whom gave me about a 50% discount due to the volume of works I had go thru his gallery. It was $600, about a 6" wide frame, with much gilding...so, I am grateful I only had to pay half on that one! Don't do that everyday, let me tell ya! :p

Larry

[Verdaccio]

Really good frames - fantastic prices - lowest I have EVER seen.

United MFRS Supplies Inc.
800-645-7260
www.unitedmfrs.com

They do have a website - but I use their catalog. This is the place where your framer that is charging you your left arm and your right leg is ordering his/her supplies from.

I framed a 21x32 inch painting in a 2.5 inch guilded pewter finish wood frame AND a 16x20 inch painting in a 1 inch guilded gold finish wood frame for $56.....yes, $56.

Plus, they will cut TLocks into the corners so you don't need a framing vice.

They also sell matt board, foam core, etc. I got 50 sheets of 30x40 inch foam core for $1.05 per sheet vs. 4-5 bucks per sheet in the art store.

:clap:

[LarrySeiler]

Thanks Michael....

I should report that I did make an order a week ago from two sources, one...La Tourette's Gallery Corp out of California, receiving 5 frames for $79.75 plus $13 freight...and, 8 frames from Wholesale Art & Frame out of their New England offices, which will all total about $200.

I received the shipment from La Tourette's and found the wide frames to be very nice. I was not surprised to see the "Hencho en Mexico" on the back....but the frames looked surprisingly decent.

I'll attach by glue, some heavier postal brown wrap paper across the back of the frames to give a more professional framer's look. I suppose I could attach my own adhesive label on the back as well.

I ordered frames from Wholesale Art's new line of classier frames which at first look appeared like the more popular expensive plein air frames. Can't wait to get 'em and see what they're like. I received also a catalog from Graphik Dimensions, and American Frame. Will try a few frames from them. What I liked about La Tourette was that no minimum order was necessary.

Larry