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tess2000
03-21-2001, 04:23 PM
Greetings!
I started a new topic as the other one was quite heavy and slow to load.

I've been selling on Ebay for over two years and sold everything I have listed. It seems to be an excellent avenue for artist and after a time I have gotten a loyal following for not only my art work but other items as well. Especially my costumes.

I'd like to comment on the issue of listing "names" in a title that are not necessarily what you are selling but in that sort of area for artwork. It is true that you will have your auctions closed if you list in the title for instance "Monet". HOWEVER... description is the key to getting found with the search engines.

Most people searching will check the box marked "search titles and description". In your description of the item you can use keywords like Monet or whatever to get your item found. It's equally important to use other keywords such as the medium used, colors, catagory words such as fantasy, gothic, contemporary, etc and also canvas, blah blah blah and so on to get found. Use these words in the first 500 words of your describtion as the ebay search engine ignores everything after that.

The more information you can give the better your chances of getting viewers and bids. When viewers are using specific searching keywords... they are in the bidding mood.

Also... presentation is everything on Ebay. Fast loading pictures.. and plenty of them. A professional looking page really adds to what you are selling. I've sold the exact same merchandise as others and gotten twice the price simply because of the information data and presentation.

Of course you have to know HTML but there are also programs available that will basically do that for you as well. Ebay has been a lot of fun for me and is now my main income and I can take more time on my art.

As for getting "talked about" on wetcanvas... my art is my business and I can use all the exposure I can get! Ha!

I'd love to see more "original" art work on Ebay and feel it is getting to "clogged" up with mass produced reproductions.

Hope this will help and encourage some of you artist to list your items!

Cordially,
Tess2000

Roan
03-21-2001, 07:41 PM
Nicely written, Tess!

I've been thinking of trying out eBay at some point -- copying your pointers and saving them :P

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tammy
03-21-2001, 09:44 PM
Flash report -- 3 days to go and no bids on my first item, but then again, I'm not very good either. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/frown.gif Compared to others of course.
I think I didn't do my listing very well, so many suggestions I forgot in the process of listing and getting used to it all at first.
I'm a gonna keep trying. It don't cost all that much to do anyway as long as one doesn't go bonkers I guess. Thanks for even more tips and encouragement.

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tess2000
03-21-2001, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by tammy:
Flash report -- 3 days to go and no bids on my first item, but then again, I'm not very good either. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/frown.gif Compared to others of course.
I think I didn't do my listing very well, so many suggestions I forgot in the process of listing and getting used to it all at first.
I'm a gonna keep trying. It don't cost all that much to do anyway as long as one doesn't go bonkers I guess. Thanks for even more tips and encouragement.


Dear Tammy,

Don't feel bad on the absense of bids. Ebay bidders have gotten very savy on how and when to bid. Due to so many sellers having multiple accounts (husband/wife teams etc) with Ebay, many are suspect to bump up bids once they see they are getting bids. Its against Ebays policy but it happens and I have caught two that have done that in the past. So I know that it does happen. The smart bidders will wait until the last day or perhaps the last few minutes of the auction to even place a bid.

Here is a couple suggestions that may help encourage bidders and get your item sold. First you can state within your auction that it is subject to close any time after the first bid is recieved (that is legal). Sometimes that helps urge those that really want the item to place a bid early.

Also you can use the free "buy it now" feature and flat sell your art directly as soon as the "buy it now" price is met. There is a catch on the buy it now. If you list an item at say 35.00 (starting bid) and then list the buy it now bid at 50.00 then if a bidder jumps in and bids 40... the buy now feature is inabled and the auction runs the full length. SO... lets say you want to sell your item for 50.00. List it to start at 49.00 and buy it now for 50. That way, the first bid has to buy it as the bids will go in increments of 1.00 for any amount over 25.00 (i think).

Another sure method is allowing credit card payments. I use paypal and it works fine. It appears complicated but isn't and your payment is YOURS within minutes. You can then ship the item the next day with the security of knowing you have your money regardless. Once payment is made through paypal... it can't be reversed.


Also, if you are a new user and haven't made any previous sales...it will take a while to get your "reputation" built up. Bidders like to know they are dealing with an experienced seller and that is only a matter of know how.

You can also try this if you have a mind to. List some other items along with your art work that is common or "catchy" like... maybe some little collectable... or maybe clothing...something that you really don't want and can let go for only a few dollars. Many bidders once they are onto a "new" seller will check that sellers other auction listings...thinking.."hey..this is a newbie and I may get a real deal here" Even though they are interested in the collectable etc... they will also see your art.

The best way to work that is list things that could relate to your art...like maybe old brushes you need to replace, partial paint brands you don't like, or some other tools of the trade that you don't use and need to get rid of. The idea is to let them know that you are in that area of expertise and that is what you are really targeting is your art.

You may have to list in several differant catagories to get your item sold but in the end you have to look at like this.....

Where is your art now? Can you move it faster elsewhere? How convenient is it to get it sold? What did it cost you to create?

Don't worry, the cost to sell is minimum and the second listing is free if it sells the second time around. Until you get established... I would keep under the $100.00 range.

Any other help I can offer please feel free to email me direct. I'll help you all I can.

Don't get disheartened so fast....while your waiting on bids...list something else if you have time. Its really fun and quite rewarding!

Best of Luck!
Tess

P.S. My seller name is tess-hawk. I don't have any listings at present because I've been keeping my grandson (semi-retired here) but you can search for past items over the last two weeks and check out my auction format. You may find it helpful. Download or copy anything you need! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

tammy
03-21-2001, 11:58 PM
Yes, thank you. The tips are very helpful. Oh I'm not really too discouraged, I mean look at how much stuff there is on that web site. To not realize that would be a foolish thing to get upset over.
I did list another piece and put more descriptions such as emerging Artist, Landscape, cat lover etc.
I don't have a credit card and never have so I really don't know how they work. How do you go get your money when they pay by regular credit card. Duh! Sorry but I really don't know!

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tess2000
03-22-2001, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by tammy:
Yes, thank you. The tips are very helpful. Oh I'm not really too discouraged, I mean look at how much stuff there is on that web site. To not realize that would be a foolish thing to get upset over.
I did list another piece and put more descriptions such as emerging Artist, Landscape, cat lover etc.
I don't have a credit card and never have so I really don't know how they work. How do you go get your money when they pay by regular credit card. Duh! Sorry but I really don't know!


Dear Tammy,

With over 4 million items up for auction it is a bonus for my auctions to get hits on the counters! ha! When I make the sale I know I've done something write. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Here is how I have my CC set up. I also have a bank account with WellsFargo. Check to see if your bank offers online personal service. I signed up with Paypal and they do all the credit card info blah blah blah. You don't have to mess with that at all. Once the buyer request money to be sent to you (via credit card)...you will be notified directly from PayPal that Payment has been recieved in $XX.XX amount. Then you can go to your paypal account (inbox)... And either have Paypal mail your money to you in the form of a check (usually takes around 4 o4 5 days actually) OR... you can withdraw those funds yourself and electronically transfer them to your banking account (providing your bank has that online feature)and the money is there within three days. I opened up a special account specifically for Ebay so as not to get it mixed in with my personal banking.

Also... You can just leave the money in Paypal and let it accumulate and then have them mail you however much you need. It works just like a banking institution as well and is also partners with X.COM. You can also draw interest on that money and set up a savings account with them as well. That is another online banking facility.

I'm not affiliated with any of these organizations so I'm not plugging them as there are others but this one has just worked well for me with no hassles and they have been very reliable in the past. Plus they are #1 on Ebay for the buyers.

Basically... Once the buyer places a charge on the credit card ... you get paid within minutes.

OH... I would recommend a personal account for you with Paypal if you decide to go that route. You are allowed a $500.00 limit for charges (per 6 month period) before you have to swith to a "premiere" account. Then you have to start paying the processing fees blah blah blah. Even then they are more affordable than most and only charge pennies per transaction.


Hope I answered your questions with some degree of clarity...ha! If not feel free to let me know and I'll try to explain it better.

Tess2000

timelady
03-22-2001, 03:34 PM
A few other notes to add:

--Buy It Now feature is only available if you list in US$ (for any foreigners like me out there - I list with ebay.com rather than ebay.co.uk so I can include this feature)
--PayPal personal accounts also have a $100 per month maximum transactions on top of the $500 per 6 months. (I just got hit with this and have had to refuse payment from a buyer and ask him to resend payment in April)
--Lots of bidders will wait until the last couple of hours! Or even the last 1/2 hour! I never bid until the last hour on anything because I've been outbid too many times on things I couldn't keep an eye on and really wanted. Also, the Buy It Now is great for a quick sale - I use it and make the price 1c above the minimum bid sometimes - just shows what price I want and the first bidder can just have it right away then. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

I've been having a very slow couple of weeks with eBay now... unusual. I'm glad you took the plunge tammy. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Tina.


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leesmith
03-22-2001, 07:44 PM
Does anybody have the problem of losing the internet connection when trying to list on ebay? When this happens, all my info input is lost. I've checked my settings per ebay and they are correct and supposedly I should not lose my info. Does anybody know how to prevent this??

TO TIMELADY: I use the Watch this Item when I cannot monitor an item I want to bid on. Ebay watches it for you and emails you 24 hrs before the auction ends so you can jump in. I have 4 items on watch now and it is great time saver in relocating the item:they all show up on your ebay account page.
Lee

tammy
03-22-2001, 10:01 PM
LoL, this is beginning to look like a ebay message board, but we know we are amongst friends here! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif
BTW, has anyone any experience with the electronic check thingy that ebay offers through Billpoint? It sounds like an interesting option.
Also, I signed up at PayPal but that's as far as I've gotten. I'm not sure how to use it. I now have a bank card from my bank.


The pay and receive services they offer at ebay are confusing to me, there are so many for buyer and seller.

I haven't had any bids on my two items yet, but I don't want to go in the hole on the services (for buyer payment and stuff before I even sell anything)!

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timelady
03-23-2001, 11:23 AM
tammy,
I don't use any of eBay's pay or receive services. Don't worry about it! Most buyers are quite used to the normal processes of sending money order/cheque, waiting for it to clear, then receiving their package. (for items under $100ish, and probably even higher). The best policy is to mail them as soon as they win and just keep in touch. I usually email when I've received the cheque, when it's cleared, and when I actually post the item. Just so they aren't sitting around wondering. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Read the ebay services when you feel up to it. There's no need to overwhelm yourself. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif Keep it fun.

Tina.

P.S. Lee-thanks for the tip, but for most things I'm bidding on 24 hours is way too soon. It really is the last hour that is critical (star trek stuff, comic books, computer software, etc.). Okay, I've revealed that I'm actually a geek artist now. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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