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chookbrown
06-13-2003, 10:14 PM
I haven't been able to do any pastel since moving upstairs as my new studio is a bedroom with almost white carpet. We are selling and moving soon so I couldn't ruin the carpet or rip it out..

I read a thread here recently where they discussed oil pastels.. no dust, easy on the allergies.. so I rushed out and got a set. Had to finish my coloured pencil commission first. Tonight I got to sit and play with the op's for the first time ever. Bit of a different animal.

13 x 9.. on Art Spectrum Colorfix.. Dark Grey colour.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2003/9218-firstoilpastelsml.jpg

Yes, its from a photo.. One of Ivyleaf's in the reference library. We have no apples in Nebraska... LOL.. jk. ;)

Has some seriously obvious problems.. shapes, etc.. but just a first play so was trying not to be too particular.

Any advice on op's is most welcome.

Thanks for looking,

Chooky :D:D:D

P.s. forgot to mention it took about hour and a half.

Redsy333
06-13-2003, 10:18 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek:
Yowzers..........FIRST ONE YA SAY??? HOLY SMOKES!!
Fantastic Work!!!!
:clap: :clap: :clap:

hehe Crumby is gonna hate seeing this..heheh
Chalk another medium up for Chooky!!!!

crumbedbrains
06-13-2003, 10:59 PM
Nice one Chook!!
Actually . .a bit too good for a first with the medium!!! LOL . . . Stop showin' off!!! LOL

. . and I like the composition.

So, . . are they good to use?? . .never tried 'em
Crumby :)

Smudger
06-14-2003, 02:20 AM
Stunning Shiny Apples:clap:

Mikki Petersen
06-14-2003, 03:15 AM
I agree with Crumby..."STOP SHOWING OFF!" My first oil pastel looked like a kids crayola drawing! This is beautiful! Say, have you tried crayolas?????

Did you use turps or any kind of blending medium? How did you like using them on the ARt Spectrum? I haven't tried them on that surface yet.

christmascarolnz
06-14-2003, 04:39 AM
Oh my! This is wonderful! ..and I'm with the others - quit showing off! - Not fair!
I wanna know what you did as well.
Cheers.
Carol happy clappy time... :clap: :clap: :clap:

chookbrown
06-14-2003, 09:57 AM
Hehe.. thanks all for your lovely comments!!!.. It's nice to be back in the pastel forum with you friendly folk!!! :D

To answer your question Mikki... yes I did end up using some Turpenoid and a fairly stiff bristle oil brush to blend the background. I put on horizontal strokes of the purple and white and was blending it with finger as usual but the surface of the colorfix is fairly rough so that wasn't going to last long. I had read here that you could use turps so as this was purely an experiment for me I just decided to try everything.

I was pleased at how easily the binder broke down and they blended on the paper. My set didn't have any greys at all so I worked on grey paper for the shadows and built up the other background colours instead.

I'm not sure if I like them or not.. I think in my case they are quite a bit slower and more cumbersome to use.. but that's probably just lack of experience. I do prefer chalk pastels I think. And saw Jackie mention folding the bottom of the paper up to catch some of the dust and put down a sheet etc.. so I will no doubt give that a shot also. But I do have to stop blowing on my pastels first. ;)

Thanks again for the warm welcome back into pastel forum!!!

Chooky :D:D:D

Sueb
06-14-2003, 10:17 AM
Very tasty looking apples! You did a great job with the oil pastels!

Sue

Kathryn Wilson
06-14-2003, 10:40 AM
Chooky: Good to see someone using the Art Spectrum paper for this medium. I've been curious about how the oil pastels would react to a paper with lots of tooth. How do you feel that the paper held up under all the punishment?? Turps, blending, etc.

:cat:

Mikki Petersen
06-14-2003, 11:06 AM
Chooky, after reading this I decided to try a small piece with OPs on the Art Spectrum paper. Boy! Does it eat up the sticks! One thing I like about using the rougher paper is I'm not getting that stickiness. I with you, though, I like the soft pastels better despite the mess. As for the dust...I keep a little ionic air cleaner running 24/7 in my studio for the air. My husband made my studio easel with a large tray (about 8' deep). The dust falls on the tray and I have a mini-shop vac that I keep near my easel to vacuum up the accumulated dust. I'm so clumsy that the folded paper idea did not work because I invariably spilled the dust from the paper when trying to dispose of it. The concentrated dust stains.

I have found that the oil pastels are good for travel. I don't seem to need as many colors of oil pastel as they seem to mix a little better. On the other hand, one of the reasons I don't oil paint anymore is because of the fumes from the turps, linseed oil, etc. which give me severe stomach cramps and the turps used on the oil pastel does the same thing, sigh...

I do love the beautifully smooth effect you got on your apples.

chookbrown
06-14-2003, 05:15 PM
Thanks Sue!! :D:D

Kyle:: I think the paper seemed to hold up very well without buckling or warping at all. :D I love the art spectrum paper and soft pastels... also their watercolor pigments are great! :D:D

Mikki:: Yep does eat them up well.. I think that what I like about the coverage I got using the turps and brush method. Your tray sounds like a good solution for me too... I'm a bit messy I think.. I remember the cat used to sleep under my easel and get covered in dust!! :D Doesn't sound good for you regarding the turps though.. thanks :D:D

Dima
06-14-2003, 05:15 PM
Very nice picture. Stylish.
You did a great job with the OP's.

Dick

Mo.
06-14-2003, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by chookbrown
Hehe.. thanks all for your lovely comments!!!.. It's nice to be back in the pastel forum with you friendly folk!!! :D

To answer your question Mikki... yes I did end up using some Turpenoid and a fairly stiff bristle oil brush to blend the background. I put on horizontal strokes of the purple and white and was blending it with finger as usual but the surface of the colorfix is fairly rough so that wasn't going to last long. I had read here that you could use turps so as this was purely an experiment for me I just decided to try everything.

I was pleased at how easily the binder broke down and they blended on the paper. My set didn't have any greys at all so I worked on grey paper for the shadows and built up the other background colours instead.

I'm not sure if I like them or not.. I think in my case they are quite a bit slower and more cumbersome to use.. but that's probably just lack of experience. I do prefer chalk pastels I think. And saw Jackie mention folding the bottom of the paper up to catch some of the dust and put down a sheet etc.. so I will no doubt give that a shot also. But I do have to stop blowing on my pastels first. ;)

Thanks again for the warm welcome back into pastel forum!!!

Chooky :D:D:D

Chooky... I'm gobsmacked... these are deliciously beautiful.... ehem did you polish them too, because they absolutely glow...super work.:clap: :clap:


They are a good deal slower to use than soft pastels I find, and need more specialist blending, but I love them, especially when using them with turps or liquin and brushes to get fine detail... the latest painting I did of a swan using Oil pastels :-


http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=110309

I also used Art Spectrum... I initially blended with a hogshair brush, to save my fingers, then went in with the turps and liquin, finishing up with strokes of pure colour and no blending.

I didn't find they ate up the pastels that much though

It was a blow for me having to give up the dusty pastels, but must admit, I'm loving the OP's now, they are so versatile.


Cheers,
Mo.

Dyin
06-14-2003, 09:51 PM
show off is right!!! Way to go...I'm totally sold on the OPs...give it a couple more goes on different surfaces....results depends on which brand you use and the support...hope to see more!

christmascarolnz
06-14-2003, 10:51 PM
But I do have to stop blowing on my pastels first.

Don't you hate it when you accidentally spit on your best part of your painting which took hours to do??!!

Cheers,
Carol:p

Mikki Petersen
06-14-2003, 11:45 PM
Chooky, I forgot to mention, about the blowing...I find I can get pretty good results by periodically taking the work outside and tapping it on the edge while holding it slightly tipped over. That releases the loose bits and doesn't pollute my studio.

One alternative to the Turps that seems to be working well for me right now (I'm doing an OP for the "Sweets" project), are my trusty colour shapers. They really grap the OP and smear it around good. They also work well for blending colors.

chookbrown
06-15-2003, 10:46 AM
Thank you Dick!!! you are too sweet!! :D:D

MO:: Love your swan.. its gorgeous!!! Yes I found them quite a bit slower than soft pastels indeed. I did like the way they blended overall and I'm sure that a really good set would work even nicer than the cheapo van goghs I was able to get. Thanks hun :D:D

Dyin:: thank you.. I will have to try some of the pastel boards I have here next.. :D:D

Carol:: hehehe.. yeah.. we had a thread awhile back about dna impregnating our paintings.. what a thought.. LOL.. :D:D

Mikki:: thanks for the tips.. i appreciate it.. I can get to the back or front door pretty easily from here so that might just work.. Cheers, :D:D

thanks all for your lovely comments, made my day!! :D:D

sundiver
06-15-2003, 07:34 PM
Wow, chook, this is awesome!
I've been using oil pastels on gessoed watercolor paper and gessoed matboard lately. The gesso gives just a bit of tooth, and working with turps and color-shapers is easier. Plus, there's apparently some acid in most o.p.s that could affect the paper.
I just spent an hour doing a pastel sketch in a moving car! No mess, except for my fingers.
What kind of oil pastels did you get?

BTDogMom
06-18-2003, 01:37 PM
OMG!! Chook - this is amazing - & it's your first - WOW!!!:clap: :clap:

chookbrown
06-18-2003, 01:52 PM
Hey Wendy and Jamie!!! Thank you so much for your lovely comments!!! Much appreciated!!

Today at Dick Blicks I found they have a colourless blender in the oil pastels.. so I'm going to have to give that a swirl instead of using turpenoid.. Apparently, it gives a different effect which is to be expected I'm sure.

Cheers,

chooky :D:D:D

marilyn h
06-19-2003, 04:21 PM
Do you not do anything perfect? Okay! I love it!

chookbrown
06-19-2003, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by marilyn h
Do you not do anything perfect? Okay! I love it!

ROFLMAO... Marilyn.. thank you, you are too kind.. Um, you haven't seen my messy studio and I gave up ironing when I came to the USA. So housework has definitely slipped A LOT!!!

Well who cares.. drawing is much more fun!!!

hugs,

Chooky :D:D:D

TeAnne
06-20-2003, 08:08 PM
Looks perfect to me, you have a good handle on a medium that I hate. My oil pastels either look too muddy or are just plain cr*p. Well done Chooky :clap: :clap:

amanda
06-21-2003, 01:48 AM
These are fascinating, my hubby just walked in and saw your pic on my screen and said 'hmmm, that's an interesting pic'. They have a mysterious, personified feeling about them I think. Very nice, oh and very crunchy looking too! Yum.