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01-09-2012, 05:55 PM
a place to post aviation , or transport works in any medium ..

01-09-2012, 06:01 PM
kick off with my present w.i.p


01-09-2012, 08:38 PM
Welcome to The Cafe Guerbois!

I think for now this is the best place for you to share your love of and works of aviation art.

It takes some time to put in place a new Forum and making this a Sticky will enable you folks to locate the thread easily.

Enjoy! I know I will enjoy looking in on a regular basis.


(I will put this link in my signature line for a while, also)

01-10-2012, 02:30 PM
cheers jon !! much apreciated !!

01-14-2012, 12:27 PM

01-14-2012, 12:30 PM
Looking good shadwell.
Is it in oil?

I just finished this one
19"x27" pastel and pastel pencils.
Sopwith Camel


01-14-2012, 12:34 PM
I cannot submit reply with image attached.

01-14-2012, 03:02 PM
you did !! and it looks terrific welcome !!

01-14-2012, 03:13 PM
Looking good shadwell.
Is it in oil?

yep a large work in oils !!

Chas McHugh
01-15-2012, 05:45 AM
Chas checking in; delighted that an aviation thread has been started so here is my last painting to help get it going.

36" x 28" oil on canvas "Sky Guardians" depicting RAF Lightning and Victor aircraft in defence of UK airspace during the Cold War.

01-15-2012, 06:51 AM
hi chas !! so far i have not commented much on your latest due to work commitments and seasonal debauchery !!

realy like this one in the first stages the sky didn't work for me whatsoever , but now it is all tied in with the completed work it realy works quite well and is growing on me more with each viewing

as ever the detail on the aircraft is superb !!

01-15-2012, 07:40 AM
Nice to see the Cat 2 crew coming over and starting a spot here. Hopefully we'll drum up a little more interest and keep it alive. Welcome!

01-15-2012, 12:27 PM
Jumping In Here - Hope this catches on with the WC community at large!


01-15-2012, 01:25 PM
My First Image Upload!


"Bat Bird - SAM Hunting"
Prismacolors & Carb Othellos on Paper
28" x 19"



01-15-2012, 05:20 PM
nice work on the thud !!

01-15-2012, 08:07 PM
Thanks Shadwell.

You Guys are really good.

If you don't mind me asking......What's the Cat 2 crew?

01-15-2012, 09:35 PM
hi perry feel free to join in with your superb work !! the cat 2 is a forum that is closing down it was devoted to aviation art !!

the only thing we request here is that if you post here you also post in the mediums gallery ie watercolour , watercolour ..... oils , oils etc etc !!

01-17-2012, 04:11 AM
here's where i'm up to presently , ready to resume after xmas


01-17-2012, 07:07 AM
Here's my most recent aviation piece - the Vintage Wings Corsair done in the colours of Hamilton Gray, V.C. Cat2 members might recognize it.

01-17-2012, 01:12 PM
nice work on the corsair , the harvard in the background is nicely depicted too !!

01-18-2012, 09:20 PM
Another refugee from CAT2 here.. :)

01-19-2012, 05:20 AM
Another refugee from CAT2 here.. :)

hi matey !!:thumbsup: now get on with somethin n get it posted !!:lol:

01-19-2012, 06:22 AM
Good to see you aboard! Looking forward to seeing your great work over here.

01-19-2012, 10:42 AM
The Corsair is a favorite of mine and you did a nice job on it, Shamrock15.

Welcome to all of you..

01-19-2012, 11:07 AM
I see alot of familiar works!! 2 recent works of mine ...

Shamu One


Seahawk Approach


Great to see this thread come to life!! :thumbsup:

01-19-2012, 11:35 AM
i still like that sea hawk aproach work !! it is a funny work as i'm a heli fan i'm both indifrent to the work but absolutely love it at the same time yet i can't put my finger on why i'm like that as it is a superb work that i have enjoyed viewing many times

the only reason i can come up with is that it is a type of aircraft i don't like but artisticly it is rendered superbly

01-20-2012, 05:48 AM
That Seahawk is amazing!

Thanks for the thoughts on the Corsair.

01-20-2012, 09:16 AM
Welsh mountain Gnats:
One I thought I had finished but last night added some shadow behind the main a/c and brightened some highlights to make it stand out more.
The scene is from the NorthWest end of Llynn Ogwen overlooking the A5 and Tryvan .

01-20-2012, 05:33 PM
superb work neil the diminutive size of this aircraft must make them that low they're diggin up earthworms !!

Chas McHugh
01-21-2012, 03:46 PM
B24 Liberator started. To set the timeline of idea to completion, I have just spent a week touring USAAF bases in East Anglia collecting references for the background. Provisional title is "War & Peace" in which a battle scarred Liberator on short finals will be the primary subject. If I can manage the composition to include a secondary element of a work party of non-combatants without competing too much with the aircraft, then I will. I am desperate to get a steam roller into the painting but that has elluded me thus far. 36"x24" oil on canvas; I will run it somewhere in WC as a WIP; if I can do that without getting told off. I have been chastised already on two occasions!! ...and it is a long time since I was last a naughty boy :evil:

01-21-2012, 06:51 PM
Chas - a reference that might help you. There was a series in the '80s and 90's called "Then and Now" that shows scenes from England during the war, and how it looks now. Kicking myself for not picking them up back then. I do recall that there was one on airfields of the 8th airforce. See if you can dig one up, if will be useful for you.

01-21-2012, 08:10 PM
your not stuck for refrences of aveling and porter rollers either


and of course it is a possibility that there may have been horse drawn ones that may fit in better

particularly if you do the horse being spooked by the low aircraft !!

01-21-2012, 08:15 PM
chas if you post your W.I.P. as a seperate on its own thread in the oils section as well as showing progress here i'm sure it would be welcome !!

01-21-2012, 08:58 PM
jeez this is one tight formation !! taken by a friend in bahrain on friday !!


Chas McHugh
01-22-2012, 04:21 AM
I once flew in a Luftwaffe Alpha jet; and got a lot more intimate with a wing-mans drop tank then they are :lol: .....and no 'G' pants either!
Photo taken before closing in!

01-22-2012, 02:54 PM
Nice to see so many familiar faces and their work. A big thanks to WC and Shadwell for giving us this space. I'll just post my last two works on the Martin Baker line and Miles M52. Looking forward to seeing lots of new work coming from the members in the future.

01-22-2012, 05:05 PM
I once flew in a Luftwaffe Alpha jet; and got a lot more intimate with a wing-mans drop tank then they are :lol: .....and no 'G' pants either!
Photo taken before closing in!

cool experience chas !! did you see there are 3 f16's in the shot though and not 2 ??

01-22-2012, 05:09 PM
nice work grey !! like the meteor one !!

01-22-2012, 06:30 PM
That Miles 52 came out well - just saw that one of the aviation mags did a piece on this recently. Nice choice of subject.

01-24-2012, 09:13 AM
My first and only aviation painting.Watercolor 35x50cm from 2004


01-24-2012, 10:16 AM
Good to see some watercolour .
Sometimes we get too wrapped up in the detail of things and a loose but realistic interpretation such as this looks appealing .

01-24-2012, 12:32 PM
Agree, don't often see water colour in aviation art. Very cool ntali.

01-24-2012, 05:20 PM
I agree. Ntali, you should consider doing another aviation piece.

01-24-2012, 06:36 PM
like the style ntali , an unusual subject too !! very nice to see !!:thumbsup:

loft artist
01-25-2012, 09:17 AM
A small painting Oil on canvas 12"x10"

It's more of a sketch than a rivet revealing technical jobby , but I think it gives an impression of flight , wind through the hair [those fortunate enough to still have some] etc.

question ... is this channel just for aeroplanes ? ... just wondering

regards loft


01-25-2012, 12:53 PM
A small painting Oil on canvas 12"x10"

It's more of a sketch than a rivet revealing technical jobby , but I think it gives an impression of flight

a superbly rendered work with a nice way of capturing the light !!

question ... is this channel just for aeroplanes ? ... just wondering

it was started as an aviation gallery was closing and a bunch of us would have had nowhere to go that was as helpful as the previous site and here

feel free to post , cars , trucks , motorcycles , trains , millitary vehicles etc , etc all works along a transport theme would be welcome !

regards loft


Chas McHugh
01-25-2012, 04:18 PM
WIP B24 Liberator short finals during the latter part of WWII. 36"x24" stretched canvas drawn with a drawing pen to provide a 'paint by numbers' to paint on. The aircraft is slightly right of centre to provide blank canvas (space) for the aircraft to fly into. The steam roller is very much smaller to ensure the aircraft has primacy in the composition. The presence of the road puts the aircraft into the canvas rather then floating in front of it.

I actually travelled to the actual location to get my head into the atmosphere of the place; it has changed little since WWII and runways, taxiways and buildings remain. I would have liked the steam roller to be part of an airfield construction party, but the hard surfaces are concrete and thus have no need of a roller. Hence the attached caravan and therefore in transit after a days work elsewhere.

01-26-2012, 05:22 AM
that liberator looks superb already chas , this is going to be superb when the paint hits it !!:thumbsup: it is suprising how visiting a scene to give a feel for it helps i did the same to take some photo's for layout refrence and also painting from memmory ,, it makes a huge difrence , strangely not only in refrences but in the pleasure you get from the work also !!

Chas McHugh
01-26-2012, 06:20 AM
Appreciate the comments; and it would be fair to say your previous link made a positive contribution despite me having hundreds of my own reference photos. Thankyou :thumbsup:

The only change from my original aspiration is that the steam roller is outside the fence rather then an airfield construction team, but sadly WWII USAF airfield used concrete.

01-26-2012, 12:23 PM
Good to see another bi winger loft artist.

Looks to be an interesting composition, Chas. You've made a good start on it.

01-26-2012, 02:37 PM
Chas, if you do another Lib, one of the assembly ships would make a fantastic subject. Looking great!

Nice to see the biplane - it evokes a lot of feeling. Sometimes details get in the way.

Chas McHugh
01-27-2012, 10:57 AM
I was VERY tempted to do a formation aircraft landing with huge formations seen overhead but I also had a few other temptations to play with some of which I expect tp come out as this painting progresses. I have posted an update in the oil painting thread:

01-30-2012, 12:28 PM
a lot of the plane is now done some extra detailing work to be done then on with the effects

a glaze of zinc white and linseed oil has been done to give a misty effect over the water !!(cheers chas !! )


02-02-2012, 06:07 AM
getting close to a finnish now !! looking forwards to the next project whilst adding finnishing toutches


02-02-2012, 03:10 PM
Yeah! Tornadoes rock!

02-02-2012, 05:52 PM
Hi Hal - anyone interested in aviation and art is welcome to join in. The T33 is a neat little aircraft and I get a sense of the vastness of the landscape compared to that tiny airframe . As you say - it's the beauty and excitment of these machines in their environment that makes for a great painting.

02-02-2012, 05:56 PM
A couple of last years efforts.
Tomcat F14A's and an Iranian P3.

A Lightning F2 of 92 Sqn Royal Air Force Germany circa 1968.

Both Acrylic on canvas around 24" x 18"

02-03-2012, 05:38 AM
Thanks Hal - The B58 is another on my "must do" list . Got some photos of the one at Pima when we were over a few years ago. It has always impressed me.
Flying it low level would have been fun I guess - unless it was a bit bumpy? I get air sick , car sick , sea sick any time anything goes up and down - so I'm kind of glad I was to dumb to fly!

02-03-2012, 11:39 AM
There's still a fair bit of low level training done here in the UK but numbers are getting thin on the ground .
I enjoyed a spell of being able to get out in the countryside ,400ft or so up the side of a hill and shoot the jets as they came through below at 250ft . Got some good reference material that way .
The F15E's out of Lakenheath have great fun hauling round a series of valleys in Wales known as the Machloop or roundabout - some stunning shots appear online of them pulling vapour and mile long wing tip vortices.
Pity I hadnt discovered that pastime till long after the F111 and Buccaneer disappeared from service!

02-03-2012, 04:30 PM
Fascinating shots Hal. Back in the mid sixties we had Daggers drop into Leuchars occasionally - QRA out of Iceland chasing Bears. The view through that windscreen didn't look brilliant to to me when I got the chance to sit in one. I gained an even greater respect for those who flew them.

02-03-2012, 05:34 PM
Thanks for sharing your photos Hal - I've enjoyed looking back with you .

02-05-2012, 08:26 AM
Always loved the B-58 - what an amazing piece of tech that was, and fantastic looking as well. Too bad the world changed, would have loved to see it in real life. Also on my "To Do" list, sometime...

02-06-2012, 04:27 AM
some most enjoyable shots there hal , for some reason shots taken by crew ( with all their flaws ) are much more interesting than those prestine examples by pro or accomplished ammetures , love the t33 shots and artwork they were a cool simple early jet !!

02-09-2012, 05:43 AM
a few more finnishing toutches and i'll be calling it done !!


02-09-2012, 05:59 AM
The aircraft comes to life with the addition of the vapour - it would be tempting to show the jet wash from the engines - but that would obliterate most of your hard work on the castle!
You've got a great result here after a long slog through all the detail.

02-10-2012, 03:53 PM
Looking good! one suggestion - the vapour and the mountain in behind the drop tank are just about identical in colour/value. Maybe darkening the mountain a bit would be a good idea to keep them from being read as the same. Could also be the picture or my monitor though...

02-12-2012, 05:29 AM
calling it done !! it has been there on the easel for quite long enough , and i have commisions to be getting on with that have waited quite long enough !!

i have been asked for a painting of ryan giggs by a reds fan so it will be something difrent to break up the usual !!


02-17-2012, 09:21 AM
Hello. I am not really an aviation artist, but I did just complete a sketch of a Cessna intended as a gift for a friend who flies. Rather than repost, I will share where I posted it in the WC Gallery. Thanks for looking.

02-17-2012, 12:49 PM
Guys, I am really enjoying your work here, I am just beginning again after a long, long, hiatus...Lifelong aviation participant and student. Hal, I was changing a tire on truck somewhere North of Farmington N.M. in 1986 as a 22 year old sky-watching lad. Suddenly, the burning hot sky directly above was ripped apart by a furious blast from the sonic ovens of Hell. Out of fear and some primal form of self preservation, I dropped my wrench and rolled into the ditch beside the road. When I looked sykward, I noticed the burners winking out as an FB111 climbed skyward...at which time the sky parted with another one in trail treated me to second blast of sensory overloading concussion. As I fell back again to my butt, the pair was climbing out and two was forming up on ones wing. The smell of JP4 was heavy in the air. I was treated to one of the most majestic climbouts and surreal experiences I could ever hope to witness...was that you?

02-17-2012, 12:52 PM
Hmmmm. I don't know if I agree. But I will play with it in photoshop to see how I feel about a moonless drawing. I wasn't sure I could justify the moonglow without the moon. If I can make it work in photoshop, I will share the image with you. Thanks.

Chas McHugh
02-18-2012, 04:44 PM
I posted this last night as an example of a night scene that made use of an unseen moon and it has disappeared!! Lets hope this one survives:
Puma helicopter over Belfast, Northern Ireland. Painted in 1998 and astronomy software was used to ensure the night sky is geographically correct.

02-18-2012, 08:35 PM
it does that sometimes chas !! give it a couple of days and we'll probably have two !!:lol:

02-19-2012, 08:59 AM
What kind of astronomy software was it? Do you recall? That seems to me it would be a handy tool for night sky painters.

Chas McHugh
02-19-2012, 09:29 AM
It was a long time and several previous computers ago; however I am fairly sure it was freeware (or came as a disc on a magazine) so it should be available on the internet. IIRC I had to input a Lat & Long and time of day and it in turn gave me the night sky. A evening spent with map, compass, pencil and ruler gave me nightscape on a day that coincided with an entry in a flying logbook. It did not come first time though as the weather is also correct and that required historical met information. The easy part was that the customers recollection, supported by a logbook entry gave me some pointers to look into.

02-22-2012, 07:02 PM
an old one " take off to norvenich !"


02-23-2012, 12:14 PM
I am going to love this forum :)

Incredible work everyone!

I have been doing a lot of miniature painting lately. Mostly on dog tags. Here are a couple of recent ones. They are both done with waterborne paint (a waterbased automotive paint) on primed stainless steel dog tags.

02-23-2012, 03:39 PM
Tags and tornados - really nicely done guys!

02-23-2012, 07:02 PM
welcome leahy those miniatures are superb !!:thumbsup:

02-25-2012, 01:28 PM
The Intruder in particular is fantastic.
I'd forgotten how much detail you can get into a very small painting - yet that's how I started off - doing little 2" x 2" paintings of aircraft in poster paint - great fun - but not as professional as you are showing here.

02-26-2012, 12:52 PM
Can we post the start of an aviation WIP here? I've got one of a Spit underway in the acrylic forum.

02-26-2012, 01:03 PM
Can we post the start of an aviation WIP here? I've got one of a Spit underway in the acrylic forum.

sure can just add progress shots as it is comming along ,, also start a W.I.P. thread in the medium it is being done in ( oils , acrylics etc !! ):thumbsup:

02-26-2012, 02:40 PM

Here's a pic of the Spit that I am working on. It is a VB flown by Anton Glowacki over Dieppe during the landing. He claimed a shared kill on an He-111, but this was not borne out by Luftwaffe records. Therefore, this one will knowing have a little (lot) of artistic license! The Spit is a real one - coded "Q" of 303 Sqn RAF, and will bear the additional small letters QWCA, which when pronounced are approximately the Polish word Cuckoo, reflecting their feelings towards learning English. The piece will be called "Ellipses" - meaning unfinished business. It also is a reference to the shape of both the Spit's mainplane, and the 111's horizontal stab. Hope this one comes out like the mental image!

02-27-2012, 01:06 AM
nice work shamrock !! i also like "two jags !" i love these polish spits and fully intend to do one in the future myself !!

02-28-2012, 04:38 PM
Man, it's been a while since I was heavily into aviation art but seeing all your work is lighting a fire under me! Great inspiration here.

Thanks for the comments on the dog tags. They started as a side project for a show that I had last year but people really have taken to them. Here are a couple more and a larger Hornet painting.

Can't wait to see more here, keep it coming!

02-28-2012, 09:03 PM
I have no idea how you get that much detail into a piece that small - especially on the soldier. Amazing!

02-28-2012, 09:18 PM
here's one I did when I was just learning to paint. Not much has changed.

03-02-2012, 03:36 PM
nice use of colour ecobb and a nice painterly effect , i like the simplicity !!:thumbsup:

03-03-2012, 10:52 PM
Thanks D'Arcy most of these tiny paintings are a lot of bouncing back and forth making mistakes and then fixing them. I know it's done when the fixes outnumber the mess ups :)

03-04-2012, 10:09 AM
here's one I did when I was just learning to paint. Not much has changed.
Had a look at your Blog - lots of good work in there - excellent landscapes and cowboy works. I guess aircraft didn't strike quite the same chord since I couldn't see any more ?

03-04-2012, 01:42 PM
Was the plane there one of Rutan's designs? I remember seeing this machine as a proposed light strike a/c somewhere. Interesting concept.

03-04-2012, 01:45 PM

Here's the first update - starting blocking in the background and filling out the Heinkel. Although it is not the normal approach for most artists, I find this helps me get the right "depth" by paying attention to contrasts and colour. I tend to lose that effect if I don't build in a uniform sort of pattern.

03-04-2012, 03:45 PM
Looks like we take a similar approach D'Arcy. I tend to work the tones out before embarking on the canvas - either in a pencil sketch or a Photoshop version.
Once I start on the canvas I like to quickly get to the basic colours overall then adjust the light and shade as I progress.

03-05-2012, 10:11 AM
hi, I've been mostly posting in the marine painting lately, thought i'd post a couple of my aircraft work here .thanks, and comments welcome


this one is an f-4 in pen and ink

this is af4u corsair

an at6 pencil

03-05-2012, 11:09 AM
I like the AT6 best - the highlights on the prop boss and canopy stand out well and bring it to life.

03-05-2012, 08:44 PM
I side with Neil - nice work on the pencils and especially the AT6.

03-06-2012, 01:25 PM
Just curious, does anyone know if they still have the aviation art show at Oshkosh?

I can't find much online and I have not gotten any answers to my emails directly to them.

03-06-2012, 01:31 PM
love the harvard ronnie , one of my favourites i painted "the radial pair " an airshow act from over here that was flown in the late 80's by pop star gary numan and the late norman lees !!:thumbsup:

Chas McHugh
03-11-2012, 02:55 PM
It has been a bit quiet around here, so I thought I would share an update on my B24. A lot of travel has impeded quick progress, but in turn allows sections to dry before continuation. I am studying the effects of battle and weather on wartime photographs in order to avoid model box appearance and demonstrate some wartime reality. Sooty engines appear to be the order of the day as opposed to the white staining on RAF bombers. No idea why though I undertstand that the white was something to do with quality (or not) of the fuel at that time. The working area is quite small to avoid getting paint where it is not wanted and being right handed, I find it easier to work from left to right. (The aft fuselage was painted in isolation and is long since dry. This means that some of the problems that are popping up need to wait for solutions. I particular the common tone around the nose wheel that effectively camouflages the wheel out of sight. I am not in the least worried about this but patience is necessary.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Mar-2012/984204-B2411MAR12.jpg The soot from the engines will eventually discolour the tail fin/rudders and some battle damage repairs would be nice but little photographic evidence of this particular aircraft exist; not helped by a change of identity during its wartime service.

03-12-2012, 07:00 AM
going good chas , enjoying this one slowly building up !!

03-15-2012, 01:39 PM
The Lib is looking good. I believe that the whitish staining is due to lead in the fuel. Seem to recall reading that somewhere once upon a time.

03-15-2012, 01:41 PM
Here's an update for my Spit WIP. More detail on the spit itself, some work going into the background. An unfortunate blocking in colour near the nose makes it look deeper than it will end up. Lots more to do!

03-16-2012, 06:09 PM
It still looks promising D'Arcy. The composition holds my eye in the picture. A sense of depth will come as you develop the tones in the background and aircraft.

03-16-2012, 06:40 PM
That is fantastic, Chas! I'm thinking of doing some WWII aerial art.

03-17-2012, 04:45 AM
that's looking very art decco like darcy !!:thumbsup: looking forward to see some of your work if you do terrapin !!:thumbsup:

Chas McHugh
03-24-2012, 03:39 PM
As this has its own thread, I did not really wish to repeat updates here, but it is very quiet on this forum which is surprising really.

Should finish the base layer of the aircraft tomorrow, and then start looking at the Steam Roller.

03-24-2012, 06:40 PM
As this has its own thread, I did not really wish to repeat updates here, but it is very quiet on this forum which is surprising really.

the idea is to post in both chas if wished !! it is comming on superbly !!

did you catch my reply on soot deposits , i'd guess white deposits are left by a lean burning engine set up and black deposits by a rich burning engine set up

03-24-2012, 06:43 PM
My mach 2 run in the FB 111. Our mission was actually low level penetration but since the aircraft was designed to fly at mach 2, SAC decided that we would do a supersonic run now and then. After just a few supersonic flights one of the birds came home missing part of the vertical stabalizer, so no more surpersonic runs.

I had had plenty of supersonic runs in the B 58 and they weren't all that impressive anyway (from a pilot's stand point).

This is a 16 by 20 oil pastel.

Chas that B24 is looking great.

gorgeous sky !! sets the subject off superb !!

Chas McHugh
03-25-2012, 03:20 AM
The F1-11 is on my 'to-do-one-day' list and is missed in UK skies. I once worked at an Area Radar ATC Unit that covered East Anglia and we had F1-11 do supersonic runs up the North Sea. England to Scotland in double quick time, but not a patch on an SR71 recovery :thumbsup: in terms of speed, or a TR1 recovery in terms of altitude.

The consensus on black v white in regards to engine staining varies according to combustion temp of the negines. RR Merlins (in line water cooled) are very different in design and cooling then an (air cooled) Wasp radial. Merlins stained white due to unburnt constituants of the fuel, and lead in particular. The Wasps on the other hand were/are prone to oil leaks and cracked cylinders, especially with extremes of temp (overnight cold soak v ops on heat). With external storage the aircraft would be effected by all weathers and not pretty, and this is what I strive to replicate, so that nice pristine tail fin is going to get some serious attention over the coming days with the lower half stained by sooty exhaust and second hand oil.

03-25-2012, 07:11 AM
The B24 painting is progressing well Chas .
Hal - good to see the F111 back where it belongs! One day I'll do a low level UK painting of one. Never did get to see one low down but ,being a low level, fan I can well imagine how they looked against some of our stunning locations.

03-25-2012, 07:18 AM
My current WIP - 14 Sqn special for their 90th anniversary. Low level over Loch Mullardoch , Scottish highlands.The markings need a lot of work still. The diamond filled white band up the tail is a bit of a 'mare but should come out OK.

03-25-2012, 07:28 AM
nice one niel !! love that livery !!

03-25-2012, 08:27 AM
The f3's are gorgeous Neil!
Hal - little jealous that you had that time with the '58. I have loved that machine since I was a kid. One of my all time fave's.

03-25-2012, 08:28 AM
I've never looked at this thread and I've had a love of military aircraft since I was a kid. Great paintings not only of the aircraft but also the surrounding landscape, sea and skies, you guys can really paint, there's some really impressive work here. I'll keep checking from now on.

03-25-2012, 08:55 AM
Thanks D'Arcy -minor point - these are Tornado GR4's -the bomber version. Sadly the F3's left us a year or so back.

03-25-2012, 03:50 PM
beat me to it neil !! yep gr's

03-25-2012, 03:53 PM
Sadly the F3's left us a year or so back.

there is one stored in a warehouse ready for the air and space museum in manchester unsure what the plans are as it looks like extension plans are moving slow !!

03-25-2012, 05:37 PM
Re hydraulics on the B58 -
Hal - that's a nasty bite in the beam end for the unsuspecting :evil:

03-29-2012, 12:55 PM
Good progress on the B24, Chas.
Good work on the FB11. HP.
Neil, I like that new WIP.

Chas McHugh
03-31-2012, 02:48 PM
I appreciate the good wishes gents; Thankyou:

The aeroplane is virtually complete at stage one with only the rear turret to go. The wording "Scrapper" needs to go on the side but I want the numbers to dry first. There are a few things for me to do outside of art but I still hope to be making progress on the steam roller asap. During the micro detail phase, I hope to encourage a weather worn appearance although it is no production line model as it is.

04-01-2012, 09:33 AM
Update on the 14 Sqn Tornado over Loch Mullardoch - darkened the tones in the underside of the main a/c - currently tidying up the markings and adding a bit more detail to the water - as well as fixing the sky.


04-08-2012, 03:17 AM
comming along nicely neil

Chas McHugh
04-08-2012, 02:43 PM
The background has began; the challenge is to create a three dimensional image without overt use of shadow as I want it to depict late evening - low light levels.

04-09-2012, 05:39 AM
love the work on the tree chas !!

loft artist
04-09-2012, 01:54 PM

A small oil on cardboard 5"X7"

just a scene giving a feel of a Joyride over the Pyramids


04-10-2012, 02:35 AM
i like that loft artist , a simple rendition but very effective .

i google earthed the pyramids as i always got the impression they were in the middle of nowhere by films and photo's

it is suprising their proximity to towns and villiages !!

obviously they film and photograph to give the best romantic impression !!

04-10-2012, 06:07 AM
Good impression la- I certainly get the idea.

04-10-2012, 07:04 AM
new to this site. here are a couple I have done since December last year.

Robert Stanford Tucks Hurricane


Spitfires from 485(NZ) squadron


Max Collet's spitfire from 485 (NZ) squadron


Typhoon from 487 (NZ) squadron


and one that I am working on that still has a lot of work to do yet. Dauntless from 25 (NZ) squadron


04-10-2012, 11:00 AM
Chas - that Lib has weathered up nicely.
Loft - that piece of yours has a very nice feel to it.
Napier - welcome aboard! Nice to see some of the other allies protrayed here.

04-10-2012, 06:33 PM
some nice works napier welcome aboard !!

Chas McHugh
04-15-2012, 12:18 PM
Slowly plodding across the landscape having used glaze to the right of the road and raw paint to the left. The glazed bit looks far nicer on the real thing as it takes harsh edges out as would be the case with distance.

I now have to decide whether to stick to reality and simply have an open field or use some artistic licence and include airfield buildings. I also have the option in both scenarios to have aircraft on the ground but do not wish to overcomplicate the overall composition. Decisions.. Decisions..

04-16-2012, 06:33 AM
Here's a thought Chas - there were a lot of farm fields surrounding air bases. The addition of rolls or bales of hay in the fields would not be complicated, but would add some character to a large expanse of painting and would help add that juxtaposition of airfield/rural England feeling.

Chas McHugh
04-16-2012, 08:04 AM
Your not wrong and as I was typing last night my thoughts were on Land Girls :heart: wheat sheaves or stacks and farm animals. Being a flyer myself, I know that when animals are subjected to aviation noise on a daily basis they don't bat an eyelid when another incoming is in the skies above them but the question would be horses, cows or sheep and how were they managed in wartime. I think East Anglia is largely sheep country. I had intended at one time to have a fox and pheasant (hunter and prey) subtley included in the composition for I love it when people see my paintings or prints daily and not notice an element of it for weeks, as happens with the dog in my painting "Bessbrook Mill". It is destiny that is driving this work as I have no idea why I am doing it so I guess that it will play out in whatever way it is meant to be. I think it likely as today, the grass of airfield was used in the production of hay and silage, so farming activity inside the boundary fence is acceptable IMHO. I may include a taxiway as a pointer to the focal point; that being the aircraft, and this would be new concrete; wet of course!

04-17-2012, 05:46 PM
Spitfire WIP....
Fleshing out continues - detail going into the land, aside from whitecaps and possible shell splashes, the water is pretty much where I want it. Some suggestions of buildings going in, identity going on the Spit. Taking longer than I thought due to interruptions, but liking how it is coming along.

04-18-2012, 04:32 AM
i like this one d'arcy it is taking on a very art decco feel of the period art of that time suits it well !!

04-22-2012, 04:23 AM
basically finished but not happy with the pilot any suggestions


04-22-2012, 06:57 AM
The features on the pilots face simply look like black shapes and his face looks too flat and tilted back. I think you need to render them a little softer and true to life .I suggest studying a few photos shrunk down to the size of your painting face and try replicating them realistically on scrap - not on the real thing - Once you've got a credible version your'e clear to fix the real one. That's how I would tackle it.
If a part of a painting doesn't look right to you - be your own harshest critic. Keep trying out ways and means until you get it right .

Chas McHugh
04-22-2012, 10:53 AM
Wise words from Neil; no artwork is a race. Illustration is if working to a deadline, but artists have the luxury in the main of working to their own pace. Which is just as well when you note how long my stuff takes !


For me; I like to paint each square inch of canvas methodically; however there are occasions when I need a coloured undercoat to work with, and this is one such occasion. There are concerns over scale when the taxiway is compared to the road although often in WWII, the taxiway was a luxury item intent on avoiding aircraft bogging into soft ground and barely wide enough to support the wheelbase of the resident aircraft. I will cross research before returning to the canvas to ensure the end result is historically correct.

04-22-2012, 11:48 AM
Re post 148
This is the only time I've tackled faces of late. It took a while to get them right , finally got the pilot looking steely eyed and focussed .Only to have the customer say " I think I'd have my head turned to the right to get eyes on target". I said I would gladly twist his neck ! But I finally got something that worked .

04-23-2012, 05:29 AM
Hi Neil
I have the painting on a local NZ website (wings over New Zealand) http://rnzaf.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Wartime&action=display&thread=16141 and a member has just posted two photos of the crew so I know now what I am painting. Thanks for you comments and help.
Chas have watched your painting come together here and on ehanger. Great painting and detail. I'm a gemini and get a bit impatient some times when things don't seem to be going right, must lean to slow down. But I do get a lot from peoples comments and find them really helpful.

04-23-2012, 07:37 AM
Thanks - meant to add that the painting as a whole is looking good.
Tricky to judge how much , if any you need to knock back the trees.
Harsh light and vivid colours are a feature of the Pacific theatre. I don't think you are far off as you are. Are you going to strengthen the a/c ground shadow ?

04-25-2012, 03:20 AM
finished Dauntless. New pilot and darkend shadow.


04-25-2012, 03:59 AM
Is photography acceptable as a medium in this thread? I've been working on some night shots of the buff on display at Griffiss AFB.

04-25-2012, 06:33 AM
Napier ,
That's more like it! Came out OK in the end - the Dauntless looks really good.

Chas McHugh
04-25-2012, 01:24 PM

I think that you will find the guys here a very friendly bunch who do not get to involved in politics for life is too short and definately not a practice. Nor do I think we have a policeman, so bung it up, if its awesome we will say so and if its rubbish we will stay quiet.. cause thats the way we roll :wave:

04-25-2012, 02:15 PM
mek42 - Chas is right - I note that there is a Photography section on the main board so there should be no great problem putting some up on this thread.

04-25-2012, 03:33 PM
Just spotted this thread - here's something a bit quiter ...

Mike Hotel
60cm x 80cm, Pastel on laCarte

My client owned Mike Hotel up until last year, when she sold it - and wanted a picture to remember the glider by (Schempp-Hirth Discus B)

04-25-2012, 04:55 PM
Modern sailplanes and gliders have very elegant lines . You've shown this one off well in it's environment.
They are a sadly neglected topic in aviation art and deserve a lot more attention. I know that sounds trite coming from an obvious heavy metal fan like me but I enjoyed my brief encounter with gliders and will never forget my first solo.

04-25-2012, 05:09 PM
Thanks Neil, I do like sailplanes
I see your 14 Squadron Tornado on a British model site - that tail would have been a lot of work

04-25-2012, 05:55 PM
Is photography acceptable as a medium in this thread? I've been working on some night shots of the buff on display at Griffiss AFB.

for sure !! it is a valid catagory on here all that is generaly asked is you post in the photography section too !! ( if you hunt in photography section you will probably come accros my helicopter thread ) :thumbsup: not added to for a while because of other commitments

anyway here are a couple of mine

" watch the birdie , watch the birdie !!"


some will get the title instantly ( for the others take a guess !! ) but a spit doing what they do so elegantly , but then i can't manage to find an angle a spitfire looks bad from

one of my favourite non millitary


and lastly my favourite passenger jet shot , most photographers seem to be fair weather togs but my gear starts comming out as thiers is being put away to avoid getting thier dslr wet by doing so they miss the good shots especialy if the light lights the subject through the clouds you get a well lit subject with dramatic clouds behind


to refer to a case in point ( i won't say wich airport it is ) but there is a photographer that sells post cards of his work ( fair game to him ) but every single shot is in cloudless skies with sun ( now this guy has 1000's of quidsworth of gear whilst i was there he was boasting about his new multi thousand quid "l" glass lens ( again fair go i never knock anyone in a position to afford such items )

but here's the sting of it i shoot fully manual on an old nikon d40 with a 70-300 so my natural comment to him was why do you only shoot in one lighting condition ??? followed by can you only use the one setting ??

deathly quiet fell !! the moral is if you know what you are doing superb photography can be achieved on the cheapest compact ( i have won and been placed in comps many times with a compact ) on the other side you can spend a hell of a lot but if you don't know how to use it to advantage it will soon show

but i'm happy to see any aviation photography pics a friend posted one his father took of a wide selection of RAF TYPES flying in formation forming on a bolton paul baliol it was far from the perfect photo but the intrest value was immense !!

04-28-2012, 02:30 PM
Inspired by some of the fine pencil work I've seen from Kev and Lyle I amused myself this afternoon tackling this small warm up sketch for a possible Hunter GA 9 painting.
I know there are many basic errors - I would have to start afresh to correct them but I am happy with it as it stands.
Served to remind me just how superbly good the folks who specialise in this medium are and how difficult it is to produce perfection as they do.

Chas McHugh
04-29-2012, 11:11 AM
Signed and ready for the final round:
There are still some points of detail that need to be addressed, but I am certainly on the home straight with this one. The cloud confliction with the starboard wing has been addressed by making it quite clear it is a cloud and not engine smoke, and the aircraft has had a glaze layer making it appear a little darker then before.

04-29-2012, 12:38 PM
That's come out well Chas.

05-03-2012, 04:21 AM
nice work all !! another superb work chas , nice pencil work neil , and love the glider !!

thaught i'd post an oldie "sharkmouth "


05-03-2012, 11:05 PM
I am very interested what you said.Thank you.

Chas McHugh
05-06-2012, 10:53 AM
"Life goes on" an oil painting on stretched canvas measuring 36" x 24" depicting B24 Liberator 42-52394 of the 96th CBW 467th Bomber Group, 790th BS in early 1945.

....and very happy I am with it. I have no idea why I did it but I do know that I have a one-man exhibition booked in Dec 2014 and I need a lot of paintings just like this one.

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05-07-2012, 07:33 AM
superb work chas !! love it !!

05-12-2012, 06:12 AM
Well folks , this Av Art thread has been going a while now - how is it for you?
I appreciate the technical and artistic input from fellow Aviation Artists.
I also find that I get quite a lot of interesting feedback when I cross post in the particular genre section - e.g. Acrylics or Drawing and Sketching as well as in here.
I enjoy the wide spectrum of art on WC and get inspired to tackle other subjects than aviation. (Not that I didn't before) but this site certainly broadens the mind.
I think it would be worth while having an Av Art Section on WC rather than a thread .
Is it worth asking about that again ?

loft artist
05-12-2012, 12:43 PM
I Visited my local art/hobby store [Hobbycraft]for some bits and pieces , and saw this on the clearance counter , last time I painted one was in the sixties Frans Hals 'laughing cavalier' , So my eyes were cast upon a lovely painting of a B17 by Kevin Walsh , cheap as chips at 2.50 clearance price , :eek: http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-May-2012/83579-B17_3.jpg
What I thought would be a quick rendition turned into a paintathon of hours and hours filling in numbers with a tiddly little brush , never again !http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-May-2012/83579-B17_2.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-May-2012/83579-B17.jpg
Still not quite finished , but that as far as I'm going , strictly traditional painting from now ......hang on theres a nice one with Steam engine !:lol:
I dont think the overcomplicated paintings would encourage anyone to take up Painting , it was more like aversion therapy .
For anyone up for a bit of fun it was 'Royal Langnickels PAL21 Flying fortress' suitable from age 8-88 judgeing my performance I would probably be 88 when I finish it .:lol:


05-12-2012, 01:43 PM
Yeah ! God forbid that anyone gets the notion that this is how you go about painting . It certainly leads to a credible outcome but what a PITA!

Chas McHugh
05-12-2012, 03:38 PM
It is far removed from my next artistic expedition?
RAF Whirlwind HAR 10 to be depicted in Borneo in oils on canvas measuring 36" x 24". Drawing phase over and painting to start tomorrow.

05-12-2012, 03:55 PM
Ahhh!!!!! Found you lot! And also to Mr Painter :wink2:

05-12-2012, 03:57 PM
Any takers on my question at post no. 170?

05-12-2012, 04:00 PM
Would love a section for Aviation/Motorsport Art

Chas McHugh
05-12-2012, 05:50 PM
Overdue by a long mile, but Shadwell sponsored what we have thus far and it would be right for him to take it on to the next level. Hope so for it is good bringing complete strangers into the genre and of course a meeting place for old friends.

05-12-2012, 07:56 PM
i was thinking the same recently myself it would be a good idea , it may also be a good idea for other transport generes like road and rail as there is already a maritime section

but it would now be nice with a couple more sections so people can post individual WIPS , reference photo's etc etc it is now late and i'm in early tommorow but i;ll give it a go ASAP when i get a couple of hours with a fair next step propposition to forward !!

05-12-2012, 08:05 PM
I Visited my local art/hobby store [Hobbycraft]for some bits and pieces , and saw this on the clearance counter , last time I painted one was in the sixties :eek:
What I thought would be a quick rendition turned into a paintathon of hours and hours filling in numbers with a tiddly little brush , never again ! http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-May-2012/83579-B17.jpg


the aircraft is is a B17 G flying fortress the named nose art is " bit o lace " airfix released their b17 model kit as this aircraft although the moulds are now worn out so the kit is presently out of thier range !!

05-12-2012, 08:13 PM
RAF Whirlwind HAR 10 to be depicted in Borneo in oils on canvas measuring 36" x 24". Drawing phase over and painting to start tomorrow.

nice work so far i feel like i'm ready for another aviation work just have to decide on a subject i feel like doing a spitfire or hurricane , nice but i also feel they have been done so many times i have little to add but i have an alternative idea to a painting i did a while ago ( hopefully it would be a huge improvement !!)

05-12-2012, 08:37 PM
Hi, ive just recently found and joined WC and posted a few works over in the colored pencil forum.
I mentioned id done a few aviation artworks so someone suggested I post here as well.

I live in New Zealand and recently participated in the RNZAF 75th anniversary aviation art exhibition. there were about 20 artists invited to exhibit from around NZ.
The exhibition was shown at the Ohakea 75th airshow and then at Warbirds over Wanaka in the South Island. I was lucky enough to sell 2 of my works, the Solent and the Skyhawk.

Theres another exhibition coming up now for Warbirds over Wairarapa in November so I guess Id better start something for that now!

I actually usually do CP racing cars ( as seen on my website http://www.kiwimotorart.co.nz ) but I sling in the odd NZ related plane.

So I hope no one minds if I show the 4 I did for the exhibition.. 3 were acrylic and 1 (the squark) was CP!

so here goes..
first is the Short Solent, on the Hard at Mechanics Bay Auckland. I like the starkness of it relieved only by the blue stripe and the motorway lights.


then the Vulcan that crashed at the opening of Wellington airport in 1959. You can see its left bogie clipping the runway edge.


and then the CP Skyhawk. The first one to be lost in RNZAF service. Actually this was snapped up by an airman at the show who had worked on it! right place.. right time!


and finally the one I did specially for the show. This depicts an F-105 at the 1964 Ohakea airshow. I liked the typical NZ type people and dress of the day. My reference was an old B&W photo I took myself at that show!


what do you all think? I hope they are good enough for showing here.. the comments sound good and the art is great so maybe Ill show some more stuff as I do it.

ps: I do spend most sundays drawing with a mate who does trains (go figure!) and we post works in progress here http://kiwimotorart.blogspot.co.nz/ Id be most appreciative (as would warwick) for any comments on the works there.

phew.. long post... apologies.

Chas McHugh
05-13-2012, 02:22 AM
The principal advantage of our own thread would be in the grouping that this enables. As it stands, you get overcrowding of individual themes, rather like trying to find a particular book in a pile of books rather then a library. It would make sense to have a Transport Section with sub groups that in turn have threads if that were possible. I was a little uncomfortable running a wip in the oil painting section AND the aviation artists thread but did so to show the need.

05-13-2012, 03:20 AM
that's a good point for me to put accross chas !!

05-13-2012, 03:22 AM
some good works there faminz love the big boat and the vulcan !!

05-13-2012, 06:21 AM
i was thinking the same recently myself it would be a good idea , it may also be a good idea for other transport generes like road and rail as there is already a maritime section

but it would now be nice with a couple more sections so people can post individual WIPS , reference photo's etc etc it is now late and i'm in early tommorow but I'll give it a go ASAP when i get a couple of hours with a fair next step propposition to forward !!

Thanks Shadwell - was hoping you would pick up on my post since you kicked this thread off.
I think we'd get more input with a proper Aviation section as you suggest . Would be easier to see and update ongoing threads etc.

05-13-2012, 06:27 AM
Glad to see you made it here faminz - your work fits right in with this thread.

Chas McHugh
05-13-2012, 01:58 PM
and so the mission continues: I hate this phase if I was honest but it is a means to an end.
I have good reference photographs of a forward operating base in the jungle which I am sure featured in a Beverley painting I did a few years ago. The long houses in the jungle will be familiar with those that flew there and the maintenance hangar on the right side should enable interest on the ground.

05-14-2012, 02:04 AM
i'm luiking this already chas:thumbsup:

05-14-2012, 10:19 AM
Hey, this is a painting i posted in the acrylic forum . Was told about this page by Shadwell so wanted to share my painting on here to . I know the background is over powering having been given some good advice on the acrylic forum so I will revisit the painting and tone down the clouds and hill when i next get the time .

05-14-2012, 11:10 AM
Hi Keith - glad you decided to try in here. You'll find the folks here are helpful and interested . We all have to start somewhere and as I said in the Acrylics section - you've done a good job on the aircraft . It's just a case of studying and practising till you find you can match the appearance of land ,sea and sky in tone and colour. Acrylics are an excellent medium for this - you can more or less simply paint over whatever bit was wrong till it comes right.

05-14-2012, 02:13 PM
i have sent a PM to the originating moderator requesting expanding a little ( even if ony to include seperate threads for wips ) presently awaiting a reply !!:thumbsup:

05-14-2012, 02:16 PM
I have good reference photographs of a forward operating base in the jungle which I am sure featured in a Beverley painting I did a few years ago. .

with cargo about to enter through the roofs !!http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif it is a nice painting !!

05-15-2012, 02:33 AM
contacted site mods regarding the propposition of giving more thread areas.

it is something they are monitoring and have been watching the intrest here

it is something that won't be happening over the next couple of months because there doesn't seem to be a suitable area and they don't want to use the area we are in for too many sub headings

but i have been assured there is a site upgrade on the way in a couple of months where this genre along with transport themes is being given considderation !!:thumbsup:

05-15-2012, 03:22 AM
Great news...:)

05-15-2012, 04:21 AM
Great news - thanks for doing that Shadwell.

Russell Smith
05-16-2012, 06:25 PM
Glad to see that Wetcavas has added an aviation art section. Many thanks to whomever initiated this!

Alessandra Kelley
05-17-2012, 09:28 PM
Hi. Er. I'm not an aviation artist per se, certainly not a specialist, but I am fond of old tech and I did a spoof of a pulp magazine cover for the World Science Fiction Convention in Chicago this year, which includes a Curtiss JN-4D "Jenny" from the collection of the Museum of Science and Industry:

(It's egg tempera on panel)

05-17-2012, 09:33 PM
Alessandra, that is delightfully funky.

05-18-2012, 02:31 AM
nice work allesandra , that is something unusual !!

05-18-2012, 05:08 AM
The phrase " Cows getting bigger" springs to mind :lol: