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Leaflin
06-03-2003, 08:45 PM
A new project has been announced in the WetCanvas! project system!

Title: Papier Mache'
Project Leader: leaflin
Relative Difficulty: Irrelevant
Type Restrictions: Other
Medium: Mixed Media
Subject: Not Applicable
Days open for signups: Always
Maximum participants allowed: Unlimited

Description:

Papier Mache's beginnings date back some 2,000 years ago to ancient China. Recycled scraps of precious handmade paper were made into lacquered helmets used for armor. In the 19th century it was used for making furniture. With enough layers it can be extremely durable. It is a wonderful medium. Inexpensive, simple, safe and forgiving.
The possibilties are endless.
Since this is our first project on Papier Mache' I am leaving the subject matter up to you.
You may want to do a mask or a figure, something small of large.
You can use pulp or strips or both.
The choice is yours.

Paste recipe:
2 rounded Tablespoons of dry wheat paste.(Wallpaper paste)
1 Cup water.
Aprox. 1 1/2 Tablespoons white glue.

In a plastic container sprinkle paste over water,
mix, let thicken (1 min.) add white glue and additional water if necessary.
The consistency should be like heavy cream.
The paste mixture will keep a week or so in the refrigerator.

There are several "pulp" recipe in the links below.

The most important thing is HAVE FUN


Additional Information:

For more information on the project: Click here! (http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/browse_details.php?proj_id=450)

Remember, in order to help keep the discussions on projects organized, you should post your questions, suggestions, and comments on submitted work here in this thread. By doing this, we allow other non-project efforts to not get "pushed down" by a swarm of project-related threads.

sassybird
06-04-2003, 03:02 AM
I'm signing up :D This looks like a lot of fun.

lisilk
06-04-2003, 03:44 AM
Leaflin,

I was waiting for this but will be really busy next few months. Can I join late ? ( August / Sept. ? ) I bet it will be fun. Look forward to peeking in on all the creative entries.

Cheers, Li

Leaflin
06-04-2003, 08:37 AM
:D Thanks Sassy and Li !
Li, you can join any time you want and take as long as you want to do a project or two, or three or more :)
I'm going to start another one up in a month or so but it will be more subject specific.
This is a "get your feet wet" one.

Kalibabe
06-04-2003, 02:38 PM
Ok, this is 4 new projects signed up for, but couldn't resist any of them:D

Leaflin
06-04-2003, 03:32 PM
:D Welcome aboard Kali!

sassybird
06-05-2003, 07:41 PM
leaflin, do you know how long it is since I did any papier mache? At least I have an old mixer I can use......lol This one is going to take me awhile to get into since I am finishing up 5 other projects, plus the shows in Aug and Oct. How can we get more that 24 hours in the day? :D

BidzArt
06-07-2003, 03:50 PM
It is interesting when you tell the history of this product. It proves that there is nothing new under the sun, only in the way it is used. IN the 50's my father took this method and began a business here in New Zealand, making motorcycle safety helmets from a thick locally made brown paper called Kraft paper, and layers of glue. Sounds surprising really, but it worked. These helmets met and passed the old standards that were around, and as the business grew, so did his expertise in this field. In the 60's he moved into fibreglass helmets made on molds, and in the 70's he went into ABS plastic and started making other helmets for bike riders, horse riders and miners etc. All different types for different uses and all to new standards, some of which he helped initiate and write. IN the late 70's, with his health failing, he sold this ABS technology to a company in the USA, E D Bullard, who continued to make the helmets for bike riders under licence.
So that is my legacy and intro to papier mache' and perhps my involvement will be to produce a helmet. Look forward to seeing the results.

']['REMBLE
06-09-2003, 09:21 PM
i'm in, got a dragon screaming to come to life... we'll see what happens...:cool:
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DuncanBerenice
06-10-2003, 08:05 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=22700

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/450/completed/1471/tn_WE8.jpg

This is absolutely gorgeous, I like it, can kids really sit on it, I see a saddle there.

I've sign up for the project to get me motivated - I've a project to do for the my, no doubt they'll be involved, thanks for the recipe :D

Duncan

Wally's Mom
06-10-2003, 09:13 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=22889

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/450/progress/15467/tn_dragmache2.jpg

This is really exciting -- Can't wait to see what you end up with.

How big is it -- It looks like it could easily be 4-5 feet long ?

Good luck, and please, please keep us posted !

']['REMBLE
06-10-2003, 09:45 PM
thanx Wally's Mom, for the encouragement! this piece is approx. 2 foot by 2 foot, unless you stretch his tail out... then he's about 5 feet long lol! i'm anxious to see how he turns out too, as this is my first attempt at paper mache...hope i don't hack it up too bad, cuz now i'm committed...:rolleyes: :D
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Leaflin
06-11-2003, 02:54 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=22917

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/450/progress/15467/tn_dragmache-3.jpg

:clap: :clap: :clap:
This is going to be fantastic!
I can already see it beginning to take on life.
Look forward to the progress.

Leaflin
06-11-2003, 03:00 PM
What an interesting story BidzArt.
I look forward to seeing what type of creative helmet you come up with.

Welcome to the mixed media forum and to WetCanvas!!!

Leaflin
06-11-2003, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by DuncanBerenice
can kids really sit on it, I see a saddle there.
Duncan [/B]

Thank you Duncan :)
I think a small child could sit on it but don't know if I want to put it to the test.


Glad you are going to join in!!!

']['REMBLE
07-31-2003, 05:39 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=24396

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/450/progress/15467/tn_DSC00009.jpg

got wings? :p

Jakeally
07-31-2003, 06:09 AM
Yessss..... he's coming along really well:clap: :clap: :clap:
Can't wait to see him finished:D

']['REMBLE
08-03-2003, 10:17 AM
thanx chris, i am enjoying this endeavor, but i am having trouble finding time to work on it. life and work get in the way...so it's slow going.
i'm a little dissapointed that there are hardly any other entries in this project, i could have learned thru others as we went along...
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Leaflin
08-03-2003, 09:02 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=24396

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/450/progress/15467/tn_DSC00009.jpg

This is progressing nicely.
You have done a great job at animating your dragon.
He is taking on a life of his own!

Leaflin
08-03-2003, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by ']['REMBLE
i'm a little dissapointed that there are hardly any other entries in this project, i could have learned thru others as we went along...
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Me too, but hopefully others will join in soon!

I have started on my "Hats Off To Dorothy" and added some progress shots.
It is in the preliminary construction stage right now which is getting the frame and core board put together and sturdy.
I have five layers of strips already and am waiting for them to dry.

Kalibabe
08-04-2003, 08:06 AM
I still plan to do something for this project, problem is finding time....

is it acceptable to do a joing project???
papier mache and gods and goddesses??
I ahve an idea but, it would cross over the two.
Or is that a simple cheat???:D

Leaflin
08-04-2003, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Kalibabe
I still plan to do something for this project, problem is finding time....

is it acceptable to do a joing project???
papier mache and gods and goddesses??
I ahve an idea but, it would cross over the two.
Or is that a simple cheat???:D


:D I won't tell :D

I think it would be fine, I sure wouldn't mind if you did it in my project.
It would be nice to have the company!

Kalibabe
08-07-2003, 03:36 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=24932

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/450/progress/20606/tn_kal5.jpg

Ok, my start for this, it's gonna be a sort of wall hanging 3d picture thing. I have used cardboard and canvas board as the base. Will use paper napkins as the papier mache medium and maybe string or some old chains i have for detail...
Will have to wait til after my hols tho...
:D

Jakeally
08-07-2003, 05:25 PM
Hehehehehehe..... looks like he is sticking his tongue out at me at the moment:D I really look forward to seeing what you do with this one.
Hope you have a great holiday

Kalibabe
08-08-2003, 03:24 AM
You're right about the tongue, Kali is always shown with her tongue stiking out and, boy, it's always a humdinger too:D

She's fearsome but, a protector of family and home, that's why I like her!
:D

Jakeally
08-08-2003, 05:44 AM
Oooops....I said he when it should have been she:eek: :D
Thanks for the explaination Kali....I am learning so much from you:cat:

Mia Maria
08-10-2003, 10:34 AM
Hi.
I'm new in the whole WC :)
I'm from Finland, so I don't speak really good English and I'm under 15 years old. I hope that you don't notice that if you/when you are giving feed back about my works. I really like this place, and I'd like to sing in this project.
I haven't done anything like this before, but I'd like to try. :)

Leaflin
08-10-2003, 10:44 AM
Hi Mia :)
Welcome to WetCanvas and the Mixed Media forum :D
I'm glad you want to join the project.
click here to sign up (http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/browse_details.php?proj_id=450)

Look forward to seeing what you create!

samby77
10-13-2003, 11:08 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28794

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/450/completed/1471/tn_hotd25.jpg

That is totally cool! I love it, you did an excellent job.:clap: :clap: :clap:

samby77
10-13-2003, 11:12 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=22700

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/450/completed/1471/tn_WE8.jpg

This one is adorable, I bet you put in a few hours on too!:)

lisilk
10-13-2003, 11:13 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28794

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/450/completed/1471/tn_hotd25.jpg

Looks great Linda. A wonderful tribute to your friend. :clap: :clap:

Li

Leaflin
10-14-2003, 10:04 AM
:D Thank you Samby and Li.
I'm itching to start on another one now!

samby77
10-15-2003, 01:32 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28794

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/450/completed/1471/tn_hotd25.jpg

I bet you are. You do wonderful work. Looking forward to seeing more. :p

pinkbubelz
10-16-2003, 10:25 AM
Talking about the strength of paper mache....

I made a Pinata for a company picnic a few yrs ago.

got it done about 2 nights before the picnic and had to speed the drying up with a hair dryer....

It probably had about 8-10 layers of newspaper....

It was so tough that after 10 minutes of severe battering, there was not even a hole in sight! We ended up having to use a knife to cut a big gash so that the kids could break it open!

:-)

Cool things being made... I will have to wait before trying to start on something-- (or I won't get any of my OTHER projects done! )

:-)

--Iris

Doris Smith
11-01-2003, 01:36 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=28794

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/450/completed/1471/tn_hotd25.jpg

Very cool! Just the thing to inspire my students. You've given me an idea for a new project. Thanks! Keep up the great work.

I'm new to wetcanvas, but can hardly stay away. What a great resource. Thanks for being involved and sharing your work.

Doris

Leaflin
11-01-2003, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by pinkbubelz
Talking about the strength of paper mache....

I made a Pinata for a company picnic a few yrs ago.

got it done about 2 nights before the picnic and had to speed the drying up with a hair dryer....

It probably had about 8-10 layers of newspaper....

It was so tough that after 10 minutes of severe battering, there was not even a hole in sight! We ended up having to use a knife to cut a big gash so that the kids could break it open!

:-)


ROFLOL :D
8 to 10 layers is pretty sturdy!

I covered a balloon once with pulp mache', then dissabled the rotation of my dryer. I put the mache' balloon on a shelf inside the dryer and turned the heat on. The balloon expanded and blew up leaving pulp all over the dryer walls :D

Leaflin
11-01-2003, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by Doris Smith


Very cool! Just the thing to inspire my students. You've given me an idea for a new project. Thanks! Keep up the great work.

I'm new to wetcanvas, but can hardly stay away. What a great resource. Thanks for being involved and sharing your work.

Doris

Thanks Doris :D

Welcome To WetCanvas!!!

If you are thinking of doing something like this with your class my Van Gogh article may be of interest to you.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Articles2/1471/124/

The student could pick an artist or painting, learn about the artist, then make a Papier Mache' piece and present it to the class.

Here's another article on "Rainmakers"

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Articles2/1471/250/

Leaflin
11-06-2003, 08:04 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=27163

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/450/progress/28065/tn_Bateau.jpg

:clap: Hi Anney!
Glad you are joining in.
Looks like you have a good start here.
How many layers do you have on your bowl?

lisilk
10-20-2004, 11:05 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/index.php?cmd=view_image&entry_id=24991

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/450/progress/1471/tn_hotd7.jpg

Linda

Bringing this back up because I have a question about the strips. Do you just cut them from brown paper ? Is a particular type of paper that is stronger for this ? How many layers ? Do you gesso before painting ?

What happened to all those other people's entries ??? No one finished !

Li

Leaflin
10-23-2004, 11:45 AM
Linda

Bringing this back up because I have a question about the strips. Do you just cut them from brown paper ? Is a particular type of paper that is stronger for this ? How many layers ? Do you gesso before painting?

Hi Li :)
I alternate between two colours of 25lb to 40lb weight paper. Kraft, Butchers, or Utility are all good choices. Never cut the paper but tear it into strips along the grain. When you cut the paper you cut the fibers which reduces the papers strength. 2 inch wide strips are good for large flat surfaces. For areas such as corners and curves the strips may need to be as narrow as 1/4 inch or less. I do at least 6 layers of strips. It really depends on what you are going to put over it and how strong you want it. Sometimes I'll do as much as 12 to 20 layers. I almost always gesso before painting but I'm sure a coat of acrylic white would work just as well for a base coat.


What happened to all those other people's entries ??? No one finished!

I guess folks lost interest :( It sure would be nice to see some finished pieces other than mine.

lisilk
10-23-2004, 04:40 PM
Thank you Linda, that's just what I needed to know. I hope to get to something soon. I'm in planning stage.

Li

twobluecrows
02-17-2006, 01:40 PM
Are folks still participating in this project? It seems like a LOT of time has passed with very few entries--I'm interested, but I don't want to be all alone!!
Cyn

Kathi21
02-18-2006, 10:18 PM
I agree!! I just signed up to this discussion board,looking for papier mache artists and sculptors!! Also I clicked on your twobluecrows link,pretty neato!! I am also an "aspiring" chef (worked in the restaurant biz all my life) But I truly love the arts and that is where my heart lies!!

twobluecrows
03-18-2006, 10:20 PM
I agree!! I just signed up to this discussion board,looking for papier mache artists and sculptors!! Also I clicked on your twobluecrows link,pretty neato!! I am also an "aspiring" chef (worked in the restaurant biz all my life) But I truly love the arts and that is where my heart lies!!

Thanks! I truly think cooks and chefs are artists at heart, not just food makers--it's one of the best ways to support yourself while you learn to make a living with art! I know quite a few potters who are also chefs--that is one natural connection--taking raw materials, combining and manipulating it, applying heat and coming up with a beautiful, enjoyable result!:)

Still no reply from any of the folks who started this thread though :confused:
Cyn

truffles
01-05-2008, 04:52 PM
It's been a long time since this was posted, but I'm glad it was still there.
Great inspiration for me, coming out of a long hiatus from my art. Having a business called Chocolate Orchard, I have had a lot of ideas in my mind with papier mache but work always kept me from doing them. Now that my time is freeing up again to get back to my artistic career, 'Firdemu' is just the imspirational spark to get my fires burning again. Would like to put all kinds of funky things out in the orchard for the public to see!
Is anyone still doing these works?

SAS Designs
04-19-2014, 03:22 PM
Would LOVE to learn more about Papier Mache, most of the links from this thread don't still work.
Anyone know how to get the Rainsticks Thread open?

Leaflin
09-26-2014, 09:56 PM
Would LOVE to learn more about Papier Mache, most of the links from this thread don't still work.
Anyone know how to get the Rainsticks Thread open?


I don't know how to open the thread but if you
go to my web site www.leaflin.net
click on tutorials then
click on Rain Maker
you will see my tutorial.

Hope that works :) , I haven't been on here in years.