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bbbilly1326
03-04-2001, 06:27 AM
Here's a landscape I started about 2 months ago, and never got back to. Everytime I look at it, I wonder what I could do with it, but nothing jumps out.
Any suggestions?
Bill
Oil on canvas, 16"x20"
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4vincent
03-04-2001, 10:37 AM
maybe playing up a strong backlight effect and possibly a mountain range in the background to counteract the thrust of the treeline.
tammy
03-04-2001, 07:35 PM
Are these on the top of a mountain or hill?
If not, I think I'd put in a white fence and some sheep or cows or something. Don't forget some highlights in the trees!
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LarrySeiler
03-05-2001, 08:01 PM
Think like a viewer to this work for a moment Bill. What is the "ah-hah?" Why did the artist feel he had to paint this. What screamed at the artist with insistence, "PAINT ME!!!!!!"
If a painting seems to lack punch or scream interest...it is because it must first be found interesting to the artist before it will be interesting to the viewer.
If the "ah-hah!" has the dynamics necessary to make a great painting, it will not be necessary for the painter to wonder what to do with it. The scene will make so great its demands that you will feel helpless.
I'm not saying there is no "ah-Hah!" here, but...your asking gives me the feeling....you have no sense of the "ah-Hah!" to reveal to us...so, now....one must be created as though one existed.
For outdoor painters...such is usually found in the dynamic play of light and shadows, contrasts and drama of color.
The scene requires an "ah-HAH!" and our suggestions would more or less reveal more about what grabs our jugular than it would indicate what grabs yours. You are going to have to decide Bill...what would most excite your aesthetic senses to see come out of this piece...then, it is a fairly easy matter from there to make suggestions.
Here is the kind of "ah-Hah!" that would have caught my eye enough to say "Paint Me!" but...then again, it may say more about me. I imagined a meadow framed by trees on both sides, the farthest being part of a higher ridge. All backlit by the sun.
Its the drama of light for me...what catches your eye?
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Larry
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Leopoldo1
03-05-2001, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by bbbilly1326:
Everytime I look at it, I wonder what I could do with it, but nothing jumps out.
Bill, I like the mystery in this painting and I would leave it just the way it is. You have already asked yourself the question and you have the answer! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/redface.gifL
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Merry
03-06-2001, 12:50 AM
I like it as is--very serene and peaceful.
-Merry
bbbilly1326
03-06-2001, 05:19 AM
Hi All,
I really appreciate everyone taking the time to give me these suggestions.
The great thing about this is that your suggestions often make me realize what I don't want, as well as what I want.
For example, I wasn't conscious of not wanting to add other elements until Tammy suggested I do just that. Thank you Tammy.
The stronger backlighting is something I've considered, but I'm still not sure. Thanks Larry for taking the time to modify it.
I'm considering now maybe trying a dark warm glaze on the forward tree, to maybe give that "Ah-hah" effect, because I agree with that notion. Part of the problem is that this was not a real landscape, otherwise I might have a better idea of what made me want to paint it.
Leo, thanks for your comments about mystery; I think the painting does have a certain kind of emptiness that provokes a feeling that there is a mystery about it. Where is it? Why are those trees lined up like that? Are they arranged by someone? Similar to the questions Tammy asked.
I'll post again when/if I modify it.
Many thanks again.
Bill
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paintfool
03-06-2001, 08:50 AM
Larry! You beat me to it! I've been learning how to use photoshop and had done a lot of the same things to this peice. Since i don't quite have the handle on it that you do i didn't want to freighten Billy with my rendition. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif But i really think the lighting gives the little extra ah ha! that this beautiful painting deserves. I think the sunlight streaming between the trunks and on the ground areas is a minimal but powerful addition. Billy, i find that if you do not want to alter the original, it is a good excersise to do a companion piece, using the components that pleased you with this one and add in the suggestions that you liked from the enhancment. Happy painting!
Cheryl
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bbbilly1326
03-10-2001, 04:16 AM
I like that suggestion Cheryl. Thanks for your compliments too.
Once I can tear myself away from these boards, I might get some more painting done http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif.
Bill
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LDianeJohnson
03-10-2001, 10:57 AM
Bill,
Lots of great advice here, and Larry's solution is very strong.
Just a few more ideas...
Where would you like this painting to go? Do you wish to maintain the soft, dreamy quality, or make it look more like a real location? If the former, you have a good start. The stroke work is loose, distant trees softer and cooler.
One area that needs addressing are the clouds on the upper right. They look as though they are going up and over to move out of the large tree's way, and in addition follow the contour of the ground. Don't be afraid to mass them in a bit more and adjust the shape to work with the composition.
Even if this is an imaginative place, the subject is still recognizable as a landscape. So the light should have a clearer direction.
In the foreground hillside, you could bring in a bit of cooler, reflected light from the sky overhead while still maintaining the painterly rendering.
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