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07-08-2000, 10:49 PM
I am a plein air painter in Florida. It seems that the vast majority of location painters work in California, SW and Maine. Can anyone suggest a way to get interest generated in this style of painting in the South Eastern USA? There are dozens of studio Landscape painters here but very few Plein air. I read that these paintings sell for huge amounts in California. Any suggestions?
07-08-2000, 11:48 PM
Maybe a start would be to talk to some local art centers and see if they have plein aire clubs or classes ? Try to get a show going ...
Twice a year I go back to NY for a plein aire charity auction for the Garrison Art Center . The artists go out in the morning and in the afternoon they have the auction . The artists get half and the center gets the rest, but the prices are good enough so its ok . Plus, it's pretty fun !
Maybe you could suggest something along these lines to the locals ?
Good luck !
07-10-2000, 10:41 AM
Well...Linda, you problem is a common one.
It is difficult to resist a trend, and no doubt the current public impression is that "real" painterly landscape painters are from out west, and the best are Californians.
Many painters rather than resisting have moved out west or California, and I came this close- "|-|" myself had it not been my wife fearing to miss family and our kids eventual children. Ssheesh....so, I went back to teaching art to sustain my painting habits.
So...I guess no move for me, but perhaps one day a pilgrimage...! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif
I have a friend that is a painter from up here I painted with that has built a home in Naples, Florida....he travels back and forth, and eventually will reside down there. From what I hear, there is definitely money in that community for the arts as for everything else.
So I will give you some ideas, but things resisting "trends" make ground in small increments. As such, you need to measure your successes patiently.
There are a number of groups around the country that have successfully created a market for themselves by creating a group of plein air artists that faithfully meet and paint together. After a number of years, they give their group a name. I guess there is a group in Oklahoma currently, six painters or so.
You need to be visible. We have to de-mystify what it is that artists have done hidden in the studio. The public needs to have their imaginations and interests sparked and made alive. For this they must see artists, and see the gift in action.
How many cd's of music would bands sell in public outlets if concert performances did not exist? People see a band play, have the image in their head and the fun they had at the concert, and want to bring some of that experience home.
So...the first thing I would do is be visible as a painter. That won't work here for me, because living in the Wisconsin national forest I live in...being visible sees so few people to begin with.
Be prolific and get smaller works out in a number of galleries as well as large so that your name appears more frequently.
Then...become pro-active about plein air painting. Become vocal...pushing its uniquenesses it brings to art, the honesty. Become Ms "Plein Air"... http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Find one or two other artists you can connect with. Paint together if only at first you can meet once per month. Then perhaps twice...etc;
Plan out a show of your group's collective works. Say you pick an area of interest to the affluent community in Florida. You and your group have "important works" assembled for a special show. You contact an area gallery to sponsor the show, but might want a more public venue to draw the crowds. To be perceived as important you must become important. What you have to say about painting must become provoking, for many adding to their own life experience for simply having met you.
Am I kidding? Heck no....because that is the perception that plein air painters have in California.
Then...there are some factors outside of your powers to create. A bit of luck and good fortune.
Remember that Californians have the history bit on their side. Californian Impressionism goes back a spell, and now many good painters can ride the coattails so-to-speak of all that good existing press.
Lastly...I guess you have to believe in a cause, because this machine you are attempting to put into motion has to fuel on that.
I paint in the midwest, which near the Canadian borders I feel are the last of the more pristine beautiful scenes. It is an area that the filthy rich have yet not discovered or it is not developed enough for them to get near it enough to enjoy it. Yet, in time...much of the land will be bought up, taxes will rise such that those having lived here forever will be forced out, and then the beauty will only exist as a memory until what little left is protected.
I understand Oprah Winfrey (spelling?) and Michael Jordan have bought properties along lakes up here, the rumor being that Oprah is building an $18 million dollar little lakeshore cottage to get away to. That will effectively raise land values and force people out. So...the process has begun. John Elway bought significant land to deer hunt on, etc; In anticipation of such I imagine that my work being of no great significance now, may one day be evidence of what once was. That is "important" work.
So...what will be your cause? Find it. Develop it. Believe in it.
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07-10-2000, 12:36 PM
Very good advice, Larry. I also like to venture out; and, after trying to get several others along, I finally gave up and go out on my own. It's hard to get others to set down dates, etc. to paint outdoors. You gotta do what 'cha gotta do.
I hope Oprah and the rest don't take over up there. One day while working in the field, a doe and her young came out to watch me. After a while, they left undisturbed. It's a nice feeling to be left undisturbed.
HI, Linda, there are some other plein-aire Floridians (say that fast three times) at WetCanvas, perhaps you could link up with them for a start. Since the nature of the artist is basically quiet and contemplative, most like to remain creative and undisturbed, hence the desire for privacy. But they are out there. Once you find an artist friend who connects with you, you have found a friend for life. Good luck. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif Karen
07-10-2000, 08:31 PM
Hi Linda, if i haven't already welcomed you to WC, Welcome! I am in Ocala & would be very interested in helping you to get a Florida plein air group together. After viewing your web site (Beautiful stuff BTW ) i can see how much you value the beauty of pristine Florida. A lot of people associate our beautiful state with Miami & such and really have no idea of our plien air opportunities! Maybe someday soon we can get together at Paines Prarie or hit the gulf, maybe Cedar Key? I do know that Wc has a member from Tampa,one from Orlando, One from Amelia Island, one from just north of you (can't remember the town) one from Boca Raton. With you & myself i've counted at least seven. If you're out there & interested in at least a one day 'get away' in Florida please let us know! We can start with a one day excursion & take it from there. Cheryl
07-13-2000, 10:41 AM
spelled paines incorrectly! Paynes Prarie! BTW Linda, might i have seen some of your work at the Santa Fe art festival in April? I keep going back to your web site to look, seems like i've seen it somewhere before. Cheryl
07-13-2000, 11:09 PM
Thanks to you and all the others for excellent advice. Yes, I show at Spring Arts in Gainesville, also at Ice House Gallery in McIntosh and Blue Heron Gallery in Ocala. I have done most of the things you all suggested and have had pretty good success on an individual basis. It's really hard to get a group out to paint. I don't really need to do that, because I enjoy painting on my own, but would welcome it from time to time. Mostly I was referring to the fact that California has some sort of mystic about plein air painting that I don't see here. Publicity wise, it would help Florida painters to have that.I'd love to host anybody who wants to come up here and paint.
Hi, Linda. Cheryl piqued my curiosity so I had to go see your paintings for myself. Very colorful. My favorite was the "Spring Meadow." Good luck and happy painting. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif Karen
07-17-2000, 09:30 PM
Got to be lots of plein aire painting in Florida in the winter, fall, and spring - kinda hot now I'd think. Hope you can get a group together for an outing. I'm looking forward to the one planned in Virginia.
07-26-2000, 06:27 AM
It does get mighty hot in the summer. I usually am on location from 7:00AM-9:00AM. After that, I'm out of there!!!
I just got a new scanner, but I don't know how to put the images on the forum here. Does anyone know how?
07-27-2000, 11:43 AM
Linda, i am absolutley lost when it comes to computers but i do know this much: once you've scanned it you need to save it to your hard drive (probably the C drive) from there you should be able to pull it up once you hit browse on the critique center page. Just upload according to the intstructions posted soemwhere on this site! If you cannot get it done send your question to Rod i'm sure he can help you.>>> firstname.lastname@example.org <<< hope this helps Cheryl
[This message has been edited by paintfool (edited July 27, 2000).]
07-28-2000, 12:15 AM
Thanks for the info. I wasn't really interested in the critique page. Just was wondering about putting stuff on the landscape site, to share with landscape painters.
07-28-2000, 01:23 AM
Linda, i could be wrong, but i think you'd do it in the same manner but you still have to go to the critique center to upload & then go to the forum your interested in posting at. Once your there (here) start out by adding topic. Then paste your uploaded image by hitting ctrl & v. this should put your image info into the box Then type your text. Rgaedless of where you wish to post the image, you still have to go to the critique center to upload. Anybody? Am i right? I think so. You know, i think i'll test this for ya! Cheryl
07-28-2000, 01:30 AM
<IMG SRC="http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/pursej.jpg" border=0> yep, i think it worked & gave me a chance to show off my armadillo purse at the same time. Funny huh? BTW let me clarify, the critique center is wher you upload & different from the message boards critiques forum.
07-28-2000, 01:32 AM
sorry about that image being so large! As soon as i'm sure you (Linda) have read the post & understand i will remove it! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif Cheryl
07-29-2000, 12:32 AM
You got it right. uh try for 360 x 216 Pixels next time will ya, That thing you just posted scares me! hehe
07-29-2000, 12:46 AM
That's pretty scary, Cheryl. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/eek.gif
Is that...uh...was that real? Are his little feet glued to his little body? For some reason, I always thought they were fairly big, but this guy looks, well... evening bag sized. How big is he...was he? Is that his little head?? If it is, where are his little eyeballs? Hmmmmm? Oh, and is that his tail on the left?
The above would be 'questions I thought I would, never in my life, ask anyone, anywhere.' http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif
[This message has been edited by Gisela (edited July 28, 2000).]
07-29-2000, 07:27 AM
Loved the purse.
I just don't know how to do this . I am a computer illiterate. I got the image uploaded two times but could not understand how to get it from there to here. Thanks anyway. I'll just be a text poster.
There ya go Cheryl,
Now I've reduced your image size for you it should only scare a few now,
Rodzart from New Zealand (http://www.artistnation.com/members/paris/rodzart/)
Dont give up Linda,
once you have uploaded your image just put this line of html into your message and change the file name to your image name,
Rodzart from New Zealand (http://www.artistnation.com/members/paris/rodzart/)
07-29-2000, 03:06 PM
Sorry about scaring you guys with my dead dillo! I think he's adorable but i get a lot of strange looks when i use this purse. It's actually about 85 years old. I found it in antique store in Micanopy, Fl. It's a great little town with lots of neat antique shops. Let's see, to answer Gisela questions: his little feet are tacked to the body with leather, he is about 12" long, That is his head, which has a clasp & opens the bag, his eyes have been removed & replaced with little rubies & his tail is gone. That is the strap next to him. It broke so i have to get it fixed. I think it's a great purse but Phil begs me not to carry it! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif: Linda, please don't give up on posting. Once you've done it one time you will have no further problems. I take photos from a kodak cd disc & use them because i am lost when it comes to using the scanner! Cheryl
07-29-2000, 06:52 PM
Thanks so much for incouraging words on the techie stuff but I continue to be lost. Not to worry. The next time I talk to my webmaster, He will do it for me. Scanning is easy for me with this fabulous HP Scanjet 5300C. It does everything. I have been making my own postcards to send to my clients with it and they love them.
This morning I had a great paintout right down the road at my neighbor's pecan grove.
It was early and cool, with the lovely trees so deep in rich summer green. A wonderful experience, as always. I find that each outing is a wonderful memory which I can bring up and savor whenever I like. In that way, plein air is truely unique. Studio painting doesn't effect me in the same way. Do you all find that to be true also?
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