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echidna
05-16-2003, 02:40 PM
inspired in part by Christina's (shedreamsbig) painting of her dream horse, i decided to draw mine. or, as i like to call it, my "yeah, you wish" horse:rolleyes: anywho, it's a warmblood, specific type not important. if the sketch clears the equine experts, i'll transfer it to bristol and draw it in graphite. i don't know why, but i've been wanting to do a painfully detailed graphite portrait, so here it is:p as a side note, the jousting pic isn't dead. just, erm, on vacation. yeah. so...critique away!
~Echidna
ps- if anyone has a horse like this they don't want anymore, i'd be happy to take him/her off your hands:D
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-May-2003/20929-wb1.jpg

MonicaB
05-16-2003, 05:05 PM
"Wow" is all I can say. I would love to see a WIP of this as you work on it.

ironhorse
05-16-2003, 06:40 PM
He's really cute. I love the eye and the expression.
Things I would look at fixing. The face is too short. It's up to you if you want to make it longer but to me right now it looks more pony then warmblood.
You also need to raise up the horses left nostril.
Were with the eye you look like you've got it too high. You could leave the eye the way it is but then you need to change the angle of the muzzle.

The shape of the horses left ear bugs me too.

The shape of the nose band as you have it now look too flat when it comes to the side of the horses face. And in turn makes his face look flat which it is not.

Now that I've said all that It's really not that bad.
Here are some lines to help you out.

Clear as mud??

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-May-2003/2974-abcwb1.jpg

Paul Hopkinson
05-16-2003, 08:00 PM
This looks fine to me but I'm no horse expert! You know a lot more than I do on this subject!

Paul

echidna
05-16-2003, 08:33 PM
thanks monica, paul, and twyla.
twyla, i knew there was something off. thanks so much! and the diagram was just what i needed! will go to fixing this...maybe i'll get some done this weekend:p
~Echidna

echidna
05-16-2003, 09:12 PM
okay, here's an update. things i *attempted* to fix: left ear, raised eye and moved it to the right to widen the face, lengthened muzzle, moved nostril, poked at the bit, and rounded the noseband a little, though it needs more work.
does he look more warmblood now? anything else off?
thnx all,
~Echidna
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-May-2003/20929-wb2.jpg

RachelG*
05-17-2003, 12:04 AM
This looks great! i'm no expert myself, either, so i won't say anyhting other than i agree with ironhorse, and that i can't wait to see you're detailed drawing!!

ironhorse
05-17-2003, 09:14 AM
Thats tons better!!!
You still need to lower the horse's left eye. I would consider giving him a bit more cheek too.
Great improvement tho!!!
Well done!
:clap: :clap: :clap:
Twyla

sportpony
05-17-2003, 03:06 PM
Notes from a warmblood breeder!

The drawing in itself is quite good ... however, it doesn't immediately say "warmblood" to me when I look at it.

Most warmbloods have longer, not-so-pretty heads ... I still think you need more length, especially from the eye to the muzzle, which is usually a bit longer in warmbloods than many other breeds.

This isn't the same pose, of course ... but I will attach an image of my Oldenburg stallion who was German bred ... as a comparison.

echidna
05-18-2003, 11:45 PM
not much of an update, but an update nonetheless. i lowered his eye and completely redrew the muzzle, lengthening it again. noseband is still giving me trouble. i transferred it to bristol and began drawin the ears. things can still be changed, so if you see anyting, please let me know.
~Echidna
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-May-2003/20929-wb3.jpg

sportpony
05-19-2003, 08:10 AM
This looks more "warmbloodish" to me ... and I think part of the problem with the noseband might be that it is too high up on the bridge of the nose. You might try bringing it across the nose a bit lower and see if that helps ... I'm not sure but that may be what you're seeing ...

I'm also always interested in how different artists work ... with me, I always have to do the eye first ... if the eye is "right" then everything else comes on afterwards but if I can't get the eye right, nothing else works.

I see you working from the top down ... which in some ways actually makes more sense and may certainly be more organized!

Suzy78
05-19-2003, 09:46 AM
I like the improvements you've made! I do agree that the noseband needs brought down a tiche, considering the angle of the head. Nice work so far, though!

Suzy

ironhorse
05-19-2003, 09:54 AM
That is looking great so for!
GO Girl Go!!

The one thing that is bugging me is the horses left ear. It's too closed and that makes the shape wrong for where it is in the drawing. More like this:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-May-2003/2974-abcwb3.jpg

IF the noseband is still bugging you try and find a reference close to the same angel to use.

If you cannot find one LMK I have tons I can post.

This is going to be VERY nice when you are done!
Twyla

echidna
05-19-2003, 05:27 PM
ahhh...now he's coming to life! i'm not entirely satisfied with the eye, he seems a bit sad. thanks all for your help- i dropped the noseband which made it better, and opened the ear a little. sportpony- i had to stop myself from doing the eye first- that's what i usually do, but i also knew that if i did it first, i would end up smearing it all over!
i now have about 2 1/2 hours into this. it's mechanical pencil, HB and 2B, 11x14 in. in case i forgot to mention it before!
~Echidna
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-May-2003/20929-wb4.jpg

Paul Hopkinson
05-19-2003, 05:55 PM
Hey there girl go for it! This is looking really great and yep I fully understand the concept of the time pencil drawings can take! I love the blending and the tonal work, if it was me then I would be happy with this so far.

Paul

echidna
05-20-2003, 01:25 AM
FINISHED!!! (pending any suggestions, of course:p ) total time spent: about 5-6 hours. comments welcome! ohh, and as a side note, i may have gotten my first commission! yay commissions! i hope more will come (hint hint) because i decided to work only one job this summer and hopefully sell some of my work, instead of working two jobs as i had originally intended. either way, i should be busy!
~Echidna
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-May-2003/20929-wb5.jpg

echidna
05-20-2003, 07:42 PM
darkened body and neck. comments welcome!
~E.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-May-2003/20929-wb6.jpg

shedreamsbig
05-20-2003, 10:31 PM
Hey!

Thanks for the compliment!! Becareful though....I got my dream horse given to me and then broke my leg the next day!! LOL:rolleyes: Just my Luck!!


But this really really good!! No comments except nicely done!!

Christina:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: