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slatter
05-06-2003, 08:38 AM
Greetings.

Attached is a pen and ink with watercolor. The work turned out O.K. except for the clouds. Any suggestions for improved clouds?

Jerry

slatter
05-06-2003, 08:41 AM
Whoops ... I forgot the file

ArtistOz
05-06-2003, 08:42 AM
not here something happened to it?

ArtistOz
05-06-2003, 08:47 AM
Looks great I love old cities, I think it doesn't need the clouds as there is enough going on already but that doesn't help you with this work sorry.

MonicaB
05-06-2003, 09:20 AM
Hi Jerry,

Welcome to P&I! You're right -- this is very nice, except maybe for the clouds. And even those aren't bad -- just probably too detailed. They take your attention away from the city.

I personally find clouds hard to do in ink. But there are others here who do a fantastic job -- I just wanted to say hi. :D

artdude
05-06-2003, 09:43 AM
Great cityscape Jerry!! The only suggestion I could give you about the clouds is maybe try to render them using the stippling technique. This will give you a softer looking cloud. :D:)

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cnfwriter
05-06-2003, 09:44 AM
Very nice cityscape -- well done!!

DSPIT
05-06-2003, 06:11 PM
Slatter, very nice. I especially like the colors and shading on the foreground buildings. Sorry can't help with the clouds issue. I also think they are a little either numerous or to defined, but not much. I wouldn't mess up my pic trying to fix, althoug, that is probably what I would do:rolleyes:

Bob

slatter
05-06-2003, 06:54 PM
Thanks to all for the comments.

Jerry

mel-ink
05-07-2003, 09:17 AM
Very nice cityscape!! I agree with the others...maybe lessen the detail in the clouds so they don't stand out so much. Welcome to the Pen & Ink forum!!

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Oldthumbs
05-07-2003, 09:26 AM
Well, another "me too" voice - great cityscape. I think that rather than detail the clouds at all, I would have just "suggested" them with the watercolors. I agree that there is enough going on in the drawing that distinct clouds do not add anything.

els
05-07-2003, 09:52 AM
I like it. Even the clouds ;) :D

slatter
05-07-2003, 10:39 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. The consensus seems to be softer, less detailed clouds. I will have to practice that, especially the idea of stippling, because it will likely come up again in another work.

Jerry

Phillip
05-09-2003, 07:14 AM
Don't know how you done the clouds,
but if you only used watercolor, you can achieve very soft looking clouds.
If I find the clouds to strong, I use a stiffer bristled brush with water & gently soften using a soft tissue as well. Work well for me. I try to always do wet into wet for sky & clouds.
But I can't help you with ink.
You can't rub ink out.

Jakeally
05-09-2003, 11:46 AM
You got some good advice so I would just like to say I think your cityscape is wonderfull:D

slatter
05-09-2003, 12:57 PM
Thanks Chris, I'm glad you like it.

Jerry