View Full Version : Self Portrait/ Oil on canvas 20x16. Need advise in the worse way. HELP!

05-22-2001, 09:58 PM
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05-22-2001, 10:36 PM
I wish I could do so well. Portraits are darn near impossible for me. Looks great to me.

05-22-2001, 10:41 PM
it has good balance of dark and ligt
good color
what are you looking for?

05-22-2001, 10:44 PM
very surprising seeing you like this if you know what I mean.

05-22-2001, 11:00 PM
Love it! Looks good to me. What's to change?

05-22-2001, 11:40 PM
There is a bit of VVG in this in more than one way. Nicely painted. I'm impressed... http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Whatever can find room in the human heart, as emotion, idea, and purpose, whatever it is able to frame into a deed ... can constitute the many-colored content of painting. Hegel.

05-23-2001, 04:53 AM
for me this is a masterpiece (including the choice of the color for signing http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif ).

Was it intentional that the hair melts a bit into the background on the right side?



05-23-2001, 05:27 AM
I would call it finished. Beautiful work.


05-23-2001, 06:19 AM
I think it is beautiful! Good work!

05-23-2001, 06:19 AM
Looks really good. I love the beard.

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Esben Lund
05-23-2001, 06:54 AM
Looks great!
You know the trick about using warm and cool colours of the same value. This is the key to good portraits, and knowing this it's surprisingly easy to do portraits.

Now some critique: I'd warm up your cheeks a bit just below your eyes. Now you're using cool colours almost all the way down to the beard, were you switch to warm. Cool colours recede and make you face sink in a little. Asuming this is not intentional http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif I'd use cool below the eyes, warm on your cheekbones and cool it down towards the beard. Remember that warm protrudes and cool recedes. A portrait should be more or less a diamond of warm colours sorrounded by cool ones. The diamond starts a little above the eyebrows extends to the cheekbones and ends just below the mouth.

I would also neutralize the neck a little, especially the highlight on the left side of the picture.

Just my 2 cents.

05-23-2001, 07:03 AM
Its great...why change it... http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif


05-23-2001, 05:54 PM
IMHO the the face and head are very good indeed - the rest of the painting lets them down.

You have a superb range of colours and subtle tones in the face and hair. It looks expertly controlled and nothing is overstated. The neck is not so well rendered and seems to splay out towards the bottom. But what is going on with the background?

My suggestion would be to give the background a similar subtle treatment to the head. Maybe make the light part dark and work in a variety of rich dark colours. Also, decide what you are doing with the shirt. Where exactly does the light finish and why?

best wishes


05-23-2001, 06:04 PM
Thanks for that info Esben Lund. I took notes. Gonna test it out. Thanks.

05-23-2001, 07:51 PM
I really like the "diamond" discussion as well...

Jeanine Jackson
Stamford, CT

05-23-2001, 07:55 PM
I think this is great, but I gotta agree with Sandra. I was thinking along the same lines about the light in the background -- just hard for me to put into words. Sandra does it nicely http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Esben Lund
05-25-2001, 07:58 AM
I must admit that this "diamond theory" is not mine http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif
I got it all from a guy that does portraits better than any living artist I know.
The guy is David Leffel and the book that really made the difference for me was "Oil painting secrets from a master" by Linda Cateura. The title is a bit cheesy and it could have been edited better, but it's definately worth $20 bucks. It contains notes taken in his classes and much of his work.
Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823032795/qid=990783798/sr=1-11/ref=sc_b_11/002-0487313-5289657

My painting improved seriously after studying this book.

05-26-2001, 07:41 PM
I like everything except I think I would make the neck either cooler or darker. Great color, expression, brushwork and overall balance and movement in the painting. I also like the various aspects of the background, the "unfinished" look (but I think it's finished).


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05-26-2001, 08:00 PM
Nice work.

I have not problem with the background or
any other aspect of this piece.

Should make tons of money with these.