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Shirl
05-18-2001, 01:37 PM
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My latest horse painting. Scanned background a little muddy, but not bad (surprise). Question is, am I getting too "cutsie" with the flowers? Do they go with this type painting? Comments/criticisms pleeassee. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif Oil, 11x14.
--Shirl

dornberg
05-18-2001, 05:35 PM
i don't think you need the flowers, because the horse is so strong
but, if you wanted to fit the horse into a setting, you could increase the intensity and make the flowers, and possibly other objects work with the horse, by
being as strong, having some shape similar to that of the horse, having a color relation, or having a structure into which the horse fits, or from which it emerges
its like doing a human figure
it is the hardest thing to get the figure not to stand alone, but to become a part of it's surroundings, which are as important as the figure

cleo
05-18-2001, 06:43 PM
Yes.

cleo

atont
05-18-2001, 10:46 PM
I love your stuff. I think the flowers work - since it is a portrait. Her cheek seems a little flat though...

Shirl
05-19-2001, 11:07 AM
Thank you for your comments!! Dornberg, I'm trying to get away from the "fence" or "barn door" type backgrounds. Don't appeal to me at all. I don't think I tied these two (flowers and horse) together, they're each just pretty.

Cleo!! Yes to which, too cutsie or they go okay--I gotta know!!

Atont, totally agree with the cheekbone area. I fooled around with it too much and made it flat.

Shirl (I really dislike backgrounds http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif)

jnet11
05-19-2001, 02:18 PM
hmmm, the cheek did get a bit grayed out there, but I wouldn't've noticed on my own, I think.

I personally prefer the flowers and the blackish background, I think it adds a soft contrast and a bit of abstraction to the thought.

jeanette*

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Shirl
05-19-2001, 09:55 PM
Thanks Jeanette. Hmmm, didn't think of that and I like it.

Shirl

cleo
05-19-2001, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Shirl:
Cleo!! Yes to which, too cutsie or they go okay--I gotta know!!

As I understood the question, is/are the
background (stuff) too cutsie?

Answer --- YES!

I don't mean to be mean, but yes its too
cutsie!

Love your work on the horses.

B.S. is just that, its there just because.

Your work deserves more than that!

cleo


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Fagan
05-19-2001, 10:26 PM
I think I would prefer an abstraction of color or a hint of vegetation behind the horse. Your horses are good on their own....you don't need the flowers...yes it is too cutsie. *SMILE*

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tammy
05-19-2001, 11:15 PM
If was me I'd leave out the bottom flowers and leave in the ones on the side or maybe the hint of something in the background.
Personally, I'd like just the plain black background behind the lovely horse.

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Roan
05-19-2001, 11:43 PM
Shirl,

I like the flowers and I don't think it's cutesy at all. I've seen lots of photos of Arab studs and flowers. Guess it would depend on the target market.

Was thinking -- how about going costume with this and adding some of them onto the horse itself? Could possibly revive that cheekbone.

Just a thought.

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GC
05-20-2001, 12:48 AM
Hi Shirl,

You're going to kill me after this.
First, I have no problem witht the flowers.
However.. Oh No here it comes.

I have seen many of your other horse paintings and think, you're doing horses VERY WELL, this one I have a few recomendations.

1. The white seesm a bid too 'white' I would love to see it toned down a bid, either yelloish or bluish/gray. A little bid more play with subtle tones. Even white horses are rarely pure white. (Of course you know that)

2. The ears seem too outlines in white.

3. The eye needs a bid more sparkle, a bid darker too.

4. The mouth area appears unfinished.

5. I also agree about the cheeks.

6 There is a lot of light coming from the right, but also from the top left.

The proportions are wonderful.

Kind regards and respectfully
Ginette

Sandi
05-20-2001, 01:14 AM
Yes, to all of the aboves... BUT!!! and here's the best part... it still works beautifully. Shirl, How in the world did you pull off such whites without making chalk???? He's sooooo gorgeous. I am so envious. All my white horses have been purples/pinks/oranges/and I STILL get chalk. lol. Don't touch it! Do MORE of THEM!! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif Moremoremore!!

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TeAnne
05-20-2001, 01:56 AM
What a beautiful painting. Yes even with the flowers, all of them. It gives it a homely feel. It also reminds me of "Rosetti"

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Shirl
05-20-2001, 02:05 AM
Thank you all for your thoughtful comments!! Our preference for the flowers is pretty even. My preference is....I hate backgrounds and want to do something different than fences or barns--but it needs something, hence the flowers. But after I did them, the cutesy thought came. Sure is great to have a prethera of artists to ask!!

Roan, I will do a painting with the costume, been thinking about the pose for it. (Like Tututomos (sp) Sandi).

Love your critique Ginette!! You sure caught me on the ears. There is some shading but you can't see it, same with the eye (I think it should be larger). The painting is still wet (camera dead) so I scanned it, but had to set it back from the scanner glass a little. It is kind of blurry. The last thing I did to the painting is put more white on that cheekbone--which made it flat. Just couldn't leave it alone http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif. When Arabs turn white, they're pretty white. I painted him/her with Paynes Gray, a blue/gray.

Sandi, I painted the whole horse white, and then proceeded with the Paynes Gray with a little burnt umber, sometimes black, mixed in here and there. More?--head on over to Animal/Wildlife for the one I did today http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif. Just playing around with that one. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Thanks TeAnne, "Rosetti"--? http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Shirl




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