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justjo
04-25-2003, 12:25 PM
I hope someone will share an easy way to draw & paint cat/dog eyes.
I get one eye perfect but the second eye..is always way off!

I have tried tracing the eyes..but that didn't seem to work..one eye is always off....

someone suggested if you are right handed do that eye first..and that sure didn't work...

I will appreciate any help I can get....

thanks so much

MKathleen
04-25-2003, 01:20 PM
Hi justjo--could you maybe post the cat or dog you are having a problem with? Either the actual image of the animal if photographed or your personal drawing of the animal.
Maybe then we can better see where the problem lies.
Best,
Kathy:)

Christie
04-25-2003, 01:34 PM
I want to know the answer to this as well. :)

Where should the eyes and nose line up? is it different for different breeds? Hoe dow you make them the same shape?

I can do human eyes, but animal eyes are still a challenge.

justjo
04-25-2003, 01:57 PM
thank you..I will sketch a picture & post it....
appreciate any help I can get...
there must be some tip as to how to get them lined up.....

I always have one larger..or maybe a little higher...
will get busy & do a sketch......
in the meantime..maybe someone has a tip to share....

echidna
04-25-2003, 03:25 PM
eye size and the distance between eyes and nose varies between each breed and species, but the eyes are always equal in size and equal distance from the nose. the way i check for matching eyes is by drawing lines across the top and bottom edge of the eyes, and then a line from between the eyes and down the nose. i sketched out a couple examples in photoshop to show what i mean.
this wolf shows how the eyes are perpendicular to the nose, and the same size:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Apr-2003/20929-eyes3.jpg
this is my aunt's dog, an example of a short muzzle-large eyes dog:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Apr-2003/20929-eyes4.jpg
here's a rottie borrowed from the image library- see how even at an odd angle, the eyes line up and are of equal size:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Apr-2003/20929-eyes2.jpg
and just for variety, here's my cat- again, short nose, large eyes, but everything matches up:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Apr-2003/20929-eyes1.jpg
hope that was of some help!
~Echidna

Rose Queen
04-25-2003, 03:29 PM
Check out this thread: http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=99656&highlight=cocker Scroll down to CraftyHopo's post to see how s/he indicated where the lineup was a bit off...



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Christie
04-25-2003, 03:53 PM
Thank you. This answered my questions. :)

I was wondering about odd angles etc. and cats as I have a couple of drawings that I need to do in the near future and it would be a shame to may them look lopsided. :)

Basically, the same basic rules seem to apply to people and animals.

i see some practice in my future. :D

belegwen
04-25-2003, 06:02 PM
echidna,

The photos you used to show how the eyes match were a great tool. Sometimes SEEING is the best way to learn. good job!

Belegwen

justjo
04-25-2003, 07:10 PM
thank you all....

I sure did learn quite a bit....
the ruler is the best tool...
I had no idea that even if the eyes look askew..they are really lined up....
thank you for the great pics too.....that sure tied in with the explanation....

thank you all!:clap:

Paul Hopkinson
04-27-2003, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Rose Queen
Check out this thread: http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=99656&highlight=cocker Scroll down to CraftyHopo's post to see how s/he indicated where the lineup was a bit off... Cheers Rose Queen I totally forgot about that one!
Any eye be it animal of human can be a challenge. For the line up and matching to work for me I am constantly measuring with my pencil and thumb and checking the angles. Even down to the hight of an eye, pupil and so on. I will attach a recent CP close up of a Tiger to give you some ideas.

Cheers
Paul

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Apr-2003/19488-TiggerWIP2clip.jpg

And for a close up of an Orangutangh's eye.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Apr-2003/19488-orangutanseye.jpg

Hope these help.

Paul Hopkinson
04-27-2003, 01:01 PM
Sorry, I should have put both of the Orangutangh's eyes on instead. This was done in watercolour.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Apr-2003/19488-BabyOrangutangeyes.jpg

Paul Hopkinson
04-27-2003, 01:04 PM
With human's the distance between the eyes usually work out to be about one eye width, whereas with animals they can be either really close together hence the last post or very far apart like the Tiger.

Paul