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mchew
04-18-2003, 01:11 PM
Hi there!

It's been quite a while since I posted a WIP... this is an ordinary old shophouse in Singapore... This one is along Sophia Road.

1. Drawing... spent 2 hours just drawing the building... tried not to use a ruler but couldn't resist... had to make sure the perspective was right before I paint.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Apr-2003/14541-a.drawing.jpg


2. Paint the sky... coeruleum and a bit of very dilutted "dirty" colour on the palette for the clouds.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Apr-2003/14541-b.sky.jpg


3. Next, paint the foliage...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Apr-2003/14541-c._foliage.jpg


4. Then, my version of "motherwash"... unlike Pam, I don't put it all over the place, but only on specific areas where I need them.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Apr-2003/14541-d.underpaint.jpg


5. More "motherwashes"... and started putting shadows and darks on the shop nearest to the viewer (right handside)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Apr-2003/14541-e.shop1.jpg


6. Paint in more details, like the pillars, windows and more darks under the roof.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Apr-2003/14541-f._shop2.jpg


It's getting late (1.00 am) and that's all for today.
Realised a few areas that need correction:

(a) Should not have painted the foliage in such details... it's in the distant... in fact I shouldn't have paint it first...(Marvin, go and read your own article !!! lol! :o)

(b) The shadows on the pillars are getting too dark... need to scrap it off...

Other than that, anything not right? Please let me know. :)

pampe
04-18-2003, 01:23 PM
looking good, MArvin

what size??


maybe you won't have to dim that foliage if you make the buildings really vibrant...jes thinking

tigre255
04-18-2003, 01:25 PM
This is going to be good......can't wait to see more........

mchew
04-18-2003, 01:28 PM
Thanks, Pam...

forgot to say... it's 21" x 14" Half Sheet of Treschelling Rough.

I don't know, Pam... I want to keep the old look of the building... so not sure about using vibrant colours. Thanks for your suggestion though.

CharM
04-18-2003, 01:39 PM
Looking really good, Marvin... I'm interested how you will treat the foliage if you decide to keep the buildings muted... I mean, it looks fine to me as is... Waiting for your next installments!!!

Nandie
04-18-2003, 01:44 PM
Wonderful Marvin, thanks for posting this as a WIP!

Now about those shadows.... they don't look too dark to me. Why not wait until the rest of the building is done before deciding to lighten them? Darks have a way of "lightening up" when you get the rest of the painting done and end up needing to be darkened more! At least, that's the way it works for me! LOL!

mchew
04-18-2003, 01:45 PM
Decided to do the minor adjustment now instead of tomorrow...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Apr-2003/14541-g._adj.jpg

lyn lynch
04-18-2003, 01:46 PM
We know I have no sense...
I love the foilage!!!
I love the entire work just as it is building.
I expect that the building will look aged and do not see the trees out of character at all--an old w/the new feel here.
Likewise, I do not see the column shadows as too dark.
I just watch and [try to] keep my mouth shut.

Lines
04-18-2003, 02:14 PM
First I would like to ask what type and weight of
paper you are using.
Second, is that masking tape that I see glued around
the edges, and does such tape stick so hard that it
comes off with the upper layer of paper?
Third, have you stretched the paper?

karenboss
04-18-2003, 02:23 PM
always love your work... this one is quite promising, can't wait to see the next steps -

mustcreate
04-18-2003, 02:30 PM
looking great so far Marvin.

I really like the contrast of the vibrant trees against the buildings.

em

babybrush
04-18-2003, 02:33 PM
i love your WIP's, Marv. this is no exception

Bethany

JustjoGA
04-18-2003, 02:38 PM
Since I LOVE old buildings, Marvin, this one may be my favorite of your works... I don't see any quandary re the trees next to the old building... we see that quite often... My only nit is that I would leave out the bicycle in front... I think it detracts from the dignity of the old building...
PS.... Where does it say we can't or shouldn't use a ruler... I've heard it mentioned in WC! but never read it anywhere... I use a straightedge any time I need a straight line or perspective

JustjoGA
04-18-2003, 02:41 PM
Since I LOVE old buildings, Marvin, this one may be my favorite of your works... I don't see any quandary re the trees next to the old building... we see that quite often... My only nit is that I would leave out the bicycle in front... I think it detracts from the dignity of the old building...

Gilberte
04-18-2003, 03:38 PM
MERCI for your demo ... very interesting !

Yorky
04-18-2003, 04:01 PM
This coming along great, Marvin. I think the subject will be very saleable, galleries here tend to want local scenes rather than landscapes. I also think this will be easier to complete than the bridge you were thinking of.

Perhaps the owners of some of these buildings would be interested in purchasing a painting? My niece has a regular market for pub paintings.

I look forward to seeing the finished painting.

Doug

lyn lynch
04-18-2003, 04:22 PM
Marvin we have a quorum. Keep fingers, brushes, water and wipes away from those trees...glad we caught you before you ruined it. :D

Doug reminded me. Some years ago I found a neighborhood of wealty appearing historical homes. I had my camera and knocked on the doors of a few really interesting houses and asked the homeowner for permission to photograph their house stating that I am a painter and their house is good subject. They agree and ask to see it when done. So I do it and a few buy it.

al22
04-18-2003, 04:29 PM
Marvin.........looking good to me............like the old houses you do.....nice touch.......
.........al

M.A.
04-18-2003, 06:29 PM
Munchies in hand.
Watching this unfold in your wonderful style.
:clap:

JanJones
04-18-2003, 07:09 PM
Thank you so much for allowing us to view your painting as you have painted it. You always do such a beautiful job and also enjoy seeing scenery from your part of the world.

Rose Queen
04-18-2003, 07:17 PM
This is terrific, Marvin; I can hardly wait to see the next "installment!" P.S. I vote for keeping the bicycle :D



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ripvanblair
04-18-2003, 08:16 PM
Really excellent as always marvin--------- well done---------Alan

artmom
04-18-2003, 08:20 PM
Looking good, Marvin! I also vote for keeping the bicycle, it adds life to the painting.

Lyn

Little Old Lady
04-18-2003, 08:27 PM
Wonderful WIP. I'm sorry your have to sleep so we have to wait for the finish.
JoAnn

taghera
04-18-2003, 08:43 PM
Looking great Marvin...well done...:)

Rich Williams
04-18-2003, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by taghera
Looking great Marvin...well done...:)

Hughs right you have a great one coming here Marvin.

Rich

Christie
04-18-2003, 09:49 PM
Marvin, this is just wonderful! You have such amazing talent...

I cannot wait to see this finished. i am such it will leave me breathless (as always). :)

mchew
04-18-2003, 11:10 PM
Thank you all so much... I don't think I'll be painting this one today... going to art class in the afternoon and will be painting something else there.

First I would like to ask what type and weight of
paper you are using.
Second, is that masking tape that I see glued around
the edges, and does such tape stick so hard that it
comes off with the upper layer of paper?
Third, have you stretched the paper?

Welcome to WC!, Lines...
(1) I use Schut Treschelling Rough 140lb / 300gsm

(2) Yes, it's masking tape and no, it doesn't stick so hard that it comes off with the upper layer of paper... I just have to be more careful when I peel it off.

(3) I didn't stretched for this painting... since there wouldn't be much wet on wet for this one. But I do stretch when I paint landscape with water reflections, full sheet paintings, and any paintings that I plan to do wet on wet.


PS.... Where does it say we can't or shouldn't use a ruler... I've heard it mentioned in WC! but never read it anywhere... I use a straightedge any time I need a straight line or perspective

It isn't a crime to use a ruler, definitely not.... but I just want to train my free-hand drawing skill not to rely too much on ruler. Still has a long way, though but getting there. ;)


Doug reminded me. Some years ago I found a neighborhood of wealty appearing historical homes. I had my camera and knocked on the doors of a few really interesting houses and asked the homeowner for permission to photograph their house stating that I am a painter and their house is good subject. They agree and ask to see it when done. So I do it and a few buy it.

That's a brilliant idea, Auntie. But the problem in Singapore is all those beautiful houses have high fences and a fierce dog... lol


Looking good, Marvin! I also vote for keeping the bicycle, it adds life to the painting.

That's why it's there... I like to add figures and other things.

Will most probably continue this WIP on Sunday. see ya

lyn lynch
04-18-2003, 11:48 PM
Marvin, train Adeline's hair dryer on that masking tape to loosen glue if needed.
Buy bag of doggie treats and keep in pocket, away from vital areas. :D
Make friends with real estate broker for estate properties. Ask him if he buy painting of house to gift wealthy client for sale closing--good brokers give a gift to client after purchasing a home.

moondancer79
04-19-2003, 02:34 AM
beautiful work as usual Marvin.

painterbear
04-19-2003, 06:09 AM
Hi Marvin,

I like the subject of this painting, it reminds me of the other one you did of shops that was so wonderful. The diagonal composition is interesting too. The tree stops your eye from going off the edge of the paper so I wouldn't fool with it too much until after you get the rest of the buildings, etc. painted.

I for one am glad you used a ruler to make sure your perspective was right before you started painting. It bothers me to be part way through a painting, put it up on a shelf to view it across the room and discover the building or wall is leaning forward or backward. It ruins the whole thing! Same when someone posts a painting here that is beautifully painted but the doors or windows are skewed. I know that doesn't bother some people, but it takes away from the painting for me.

If someone uses a ruler to draw the lines, if they go over the line freehand, that usually softens it so it doesn't look too rigid.

This is coming along great. I look forward to the next stage.

Crystal Owl
04-19-2003, 10:32 AM
Looking good Marvin can't wait to see the rest. :)

Irene

mchew
04-20-2003, 10:07 AM
Hi! Sorry to keep you guys waiting.... here's the rest of the WIP

7. Continued on the shops... painted in the windows, added more darks and shadows

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Apr-2003/14541-h._shop3.jpg


8. Added more details.. ie. windows, doors, plants...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Apr-2003/14541-i._shop4.jpg


9. Finally, painted the figures, bike, ground and darks

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Apr-2003/14541-j._final1.jpg


I felt it would look better if I crop some of the foliage (left side) off... what do you think?

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Apr-2003/14541-j._final2.jpg


Here are some close-up shots of the details.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Apr-2003/14541-z._detail_-_man_with_bike.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Apr-2003/14541-z.detail_-_man_with_bag.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Apr-2003/14541-z.Detail_-_windows.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Apr-2003/14541-z.detail_-_windows2.jpg

Christie
04-20-2003, 10:12 AM
Wow! An incredible piece of work...

I am in awe. thanks for starting my morning off with such beauty. :)

artmom
04-20-2003, 10:14 AM
Oh, Marvin, what talent you have! I feel like I have visited Signapore this morning:D

I personally like all the greenery--don't crop until you have looked at it for a while--and get more opinions! (Sorry for sounding like a mother--but, as we say in Tennessee--"I are one.":)

Lyn

mchew
04-20-2003, 10:51 AM
Thanks for looking Christie and Lyn.:)

tessp
04-20-2003, 10:56 AM
Hi Marvin,

Another awesome painting. :clap:

I agree that the original has a little too much foliage on the left, but it has a nicer sense of depth and the negative shape around the buildings is better. Besides, you repeated the green foliage elsewhere. Your cropped version feels cramped to me. How about cropping just a little, like this?

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Apr-2003/8692-14541-j._final1crop.jpg

Tess

ripvanblair
04-20-2003, 10:56 AM
Incredible as always Marvin I like the detail you go to------well done---------Alan

Lines
04-20-2003, 11:55 AM
I like how it has gone so far.
Considering your verticals, have you manipulated
anything, or have you just stayed faithful to your
original reference (photo/sketch)?
What I see is the nearest upright square column
leaning, and also the last column leaning too.
Then there is the door behind the near column
which also leans.
The overall effect is pleasing, especially the stone-work/
plaster-work of the building.
The figures in the picture are necessary as without them
the picture would look sparse/empty.
I am reminded of my limited experience of the same climate
(but elsewhere). I feel hot and sweaty already!
The vegetation looks ok, but seems just a little intense when compared with the right bottom quarter. The two shrubs in pots seem to be in the same light but are much less intense.
Cheers,

pampe
04-20-2003, 12:07 PM
great finiah, Marvin

agree about the crop

Gilberte
04-20-2003, 12:16 PM
Maybe I'm repeating myself :

but you're sooooooo talented !

Yorky
04-20-2003, 12:20 PM
Wonderful painting, Marvin. I prefer the uncropped version.

By the way is the right hand figure a child? If so he looks a little tubby.

Doug

mchew
04-20-2003, 12:39 PM
Thanks for looking, Tess, Alan, Lines, Pam, Gilberte, Doug.

Lines, here's the reference photo...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Apr-2003/14541-Sophia_Road_2a.jpg

I do agree that the columns especially the one on the right is leaning and the door as well... didn't noticed it while I paint... I've since straightened the door but decided to leave the pillar alone.... it's an old building built decades ago... so I guess it doesn't matter if it leans a bit... add more character..lol
:evil: :cool: :D

As for the vegetation on the left.... that's why I wanted to crop it. Thanks for your critiques... I really appreciate your feedback.


Doug, that figure is supposed to be a short but chubby adult ;)

lyn lynch
04-20-2003, 01:00 PM
No, No, No, NO!! Don't crop that foilage. Foilage is beautiful and adds a good depth to the scene, it balances on both ends. At least leave it alone for a bit...see what the gallery thinks.

So beautifully done, Marvin. What a treat to know you. thank you for all the sharing.

Doug: You got problem w/chubby I got right hook w/your name on it. :p

painterbear
04-20-2003, 02:10 PM
Marvin,

I agree wholeheartedly with Fookie! Don't crop the foliage, it adds depth to the painting and is balanced with the greens at the other end of the street.

I like your buildings leaning a little, that's what old buildings do. You should see the ones in the older part of Naples, they've survived terramottoes (earthquakes) and generations of people living in them, and they tilt a LOT. If you painted them straight, they wouldn't look natural. I suspect your buildings are like that.

I really like the way you painted the windows with colors glowing through them. It is very effective.

Nice job on the painting, Marvin, and a lovely WIP so we can follow your technique.

Is the bridge going to be next?

Little Old Lady
04-20-2003, 03:02 PM
Another masterpiece. I am sure the gallery will like it.
JoAnn

CharM
04-20-2003, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by fookie
No, No, No, NO!! Don't crop that foilage. Foilage is beautiful and adds a good depth to the scene, it balances on both ends. At least leave it alone for a bit...see what the gallery thinks.

So beautifully done, Marvin. What a treat to know you. thank you for all the sharing.

Doug: You got problem w/chubby I got right hook w/your name on it. :p

What Fookie said!!!

Hands on massive beached whale22 hips - hmmmm Doug.... I think I second that motion too!!! LOL LOL LOL

Olga
04-20-2003, 03:47 PM
The detail in your work is really amazing. Wonderful color in those old buildings, too.

I do not think that the parts that lean matter at all--they really do add character to what are obviously old and pretty delapidated buildings. I do like your crop, too.. The foliage is good, but I think the composition is better when it's cropped...

Olga

Uschi
04-20-2003, 03:52 PM
Just saw this for the first time, don't know how I could possibly have missed it.

What can I say????? FANTASTIC!!!!!!! If I knew how to write it large, I would write it very, very large!!!!!

Marvin, you are soooo good, so please, please, go and talk to an established artist for business advice re art. There are so many ways to go, i.e. giclees etc. I don't know how the market is over there but an accomplished local artist would be able to give you expert advice.
Uschi

Yorky
04-20-2003, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by CharM


What Fookie said!!!

Hands on massive beached whale22 hips - hmmmm Doug.... I think I second that motion too!!! LOL LOL LOL

ROFLMA

You girls crack me up!

What with you and Nandie and her "no brainer" remark.

I have you know I am a fully qualified member of the chubby club myself :D

Doug

Alan Cross
04-20-2003, 04:26 PM
Hi Marvin nice jjob my only problem is that sidewalk line going out right in the corner....
Alan :)

Rich Williams
04-20-2003, 05:34 PM
Looks wonderful Marvin and dont crop it. Leave it like it is as it makes the whole scene complete.

Rich

artcrazy
04-20-2003, 05:55 PM
stunning!! I agree - don't crop! :eek: The foliage is gorgeous, it adds a nice glow behind the building, which i think really sets it off.

Beautiful! :clap:

mchew
04-22-2003, 12:59 PM
SOLD!!
to our beloved AUNTIE FOOKIE! :)

mchew
04-22-2003, 01:13 PM
Here's the painting after straightening the door

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Apr-2003/14541-Shophouses_along_Sophia_Rd_(18_x_14)_small.jpg

lyn lynch
04-22-2003, 01:39 PM
MARVIN

THIS WORK SOLD!
Keep hands, brushes, water, rags, AND especially scissors AWAY from that work; or, you remember what I told you about the BROOM!

Please, also go back into thread and Change Post subject: FROM WIP to SOLD

I AM very happy to be new owner of this work. I think it is beautiful and am currently planning the frame. Thank you, Marvin for making this work for me.

babybrush
04-22-2003, 01:43 PM
Congratulations to both Marvin and Fookie!! this is awesome. dare i ask how much it brought?

Bethany

mchew
04-22-2003, 01:44 PM
Auntie... the little adjustment to the door was done before our deal but I didn't post it on the thread... now that it's sold to you, I thought you'd like to see the final piece... :)

As for the title of the thread, I can't change WIP to SOLD... only the moderator could do it... :)

CharM
04-22-2003, 01:59 PM
Congratulations to both of you. Talk about a win-win situation!!!

al22
04-22-2003, 02:28 PM
Hmmmmmmmm, marv getting famous......think I'll steal this one make me a nice print.............lol
Congrats to both of you!

......al

lyn lynch
04-22-2003, 02:35 PM
Thank you for congrats on my newest acquisition; I'm chuffed. I love all of Marvin's works but this one I copied and kept open on my desktop to study. The palette sings to me, and of course I could not let him crop those trees...LOL

I am getting in on the ground floor of Marvin's professional life. I will be able to say I own an original of the Master's work.

Bethany, I studied the work and decided what I could pay to buy it. I pm'd Marvin and he graciously accepted. We shook on it, and I belive Marvin when he says he altered the work before I purchased. But, I'm watching now, Marvin...LOL

painterbear
04-22-2003, 02:54 PM
Marvin,

Congratulations on the sale of this lovely work.

Fookie,

Congratulations on being the proud owner of a Marvin Chew original watercolor. It is a beautiful, fresh, stunning piece of art.

els
04-22-2003, 03:53 PM
Marvin, this is FANTASTIC!!! Excellent work...

Fookie, congratulations, you bought a masterpiece...

Uschi
04-22-2003, 05:05 PM
Fookie, I think you are right, you bought yourself a heck of an investment there - that Marvin will be going places.

So, CONGRATULATIONS and a toast to the both of you!!!!!
Uschi

pampe
04-22-2003, 05:08 PM
:D

*pampe loves happy endings*

Yorky
04-22-2003, 06:33 PM
Congratulations Fookie, Marvin.

I see an internal market developing here :D

Doug

jageo
04-22-2003, 08:40 PM
What a fun thread to find and follow all the way through.
Fookie, you're so funny. I love reading your comments.
It's a lovely painting and like Pam says, it's a happy ending for all. :)

JA

sweetbabydill
04-22-2003, 09:09 PM
Marvin,
I really like this painting, of course I like all your stuff. I think that Fookie got a real masterpiece. Great work!
Carolyn

lyn lynch
04-22-2003, 09:17 PM
Yup, satisfactory conclusion all around.
Pamps loves happy endings and we love Pamps. [Have a fun trip, Pamps]
Jaego, thank you but really it's just low medication level makes me act like that--doctor is working on it--hang around more often, we slap each other around with font size changes and Smilies...you have a good time too.

I emailed my son I bought another painting [after I said I wouldn't, but I said I needed to replace the large desert 'scape oil he took when he was here two weeks ago.], and he write back "I hope it is a landscape". LOL, well a bit of landscape. Son always pestering me to paint him a landscape.

artmom
04-22-2003, 09:42 PM
Fookie and Marvin--congrats on a done deal done well! (Is that redundant???):D


The other Lyn

ptantono
04-22-2003, 09:47 PM
Congrats to both of you Auntie Fookie and Marvin :clap: :clap: :clap: This painting is a valuable piece, it has a history to tell us. Imagine if one day those old buildings were gone and replaced with office buildings.

hopefulbucky
04-23-2003, 12:13 AM
congratulations Marvin on a wonderful painting and Fookie for being able to purchase it. What a treasure to be able to look at this painting daily.

:cat:

Little Old Lady
04-23-2003, 08:17 AM
Wonderful happy ending for Marvin an Lynn.
JoAnn